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James WARD & Emma PRITCHARD

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Qld. Birth 26 Feb 1854/BBP892 Ward James William - James - Emma -


Looking for the marriage of James WARD & Emma PRITCHARD


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How curious:

Name: James Ward
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Emma Pritchard
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 14 Jan 1851
Event Place: Sydney, Cumberland, New South Wales, Australia
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status: Married
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M31027-9
System Origin: Australia
GS Film number: 993985
Reference ID:

It's not on the Qld. or NSW index. Is that because there was no actual marriage because James was already married ?
 

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Name: James Ward
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Emma Pritchard
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 14 Jan 1851
Event Place: New South Wales, Australia
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status: Widowed
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00387-4
System Origin: Australia
GS Film number: 993985
Reference ID: cn 72
 

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Looking for the right death for James. Lots in Queensland. :rolleyes:

I don't have his pob or parents yet.


Qld. Death 1911/C01956 Ward Emma - William Pritchard - Elizabeth - ** born England aged 89
 

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I wonder if this is Emma's arrival:
NSW Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896
Emma Pritchard
Birth Year: abt 1823
Age: 25
Arrival Date: 16 Jul 1848
Vessel Name: Equestrian
Origin Location: Spitalfield, Middlesex
[Image says Middlesex, housemaid. She's with Mary Elizabeth Pritchard 18y, nursemaid]

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James died before 1911

The Brisbane Courier
Wednesday 28 June 1911
WARD-At Ipswich, on 23rd June, 1911, Emma Ward, relict of the late James Ward, and mother of James IV AVard, woolclasscr, of Charlev Hie, Q , aged 89 years.
 

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James died before 1883 :eek:

QLD birth
1859/C1458 Richard Edwin Ward James Emma Pritchard

Marriage notice for Richard Edwin

Queensland Times, Ipswich Herald & General Advertiser (Qld. : 1861 - 1908)
Saturday 13 October 1883

MARRIAGE, On the 11th October, at St. Paul's Church, Roma, by the ev. E C.,Osborne, Richard Edwin, youngeset Son the late James Ward, to Margaret, fifth daughter of Frank Emerson, both of Roma.
 

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Now the damn QLD bmd is timing out on me :rolleyes:

Finally got it to work :rolleyes:

These 2 deaths look interesting.

1876/C1176 James Ward Geo. Ward Jane
1878/B12117 James Ward Peter Ward Margaret Millifont
 

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Now the damn QLD bmd is timing out on me :rolleyes:

Finally got it to work :rolleyes:

These 2 deaths look interesting.

1876/C1176 James Ward Geo. Ward Jane
1878/B12117 James Ward Peter Ward Margaret Millifont
Hi gibbo..

Yeah, especially the 2nd one, Dave has Millifont or Mellefont in one of his lines...

James Ward
Death Date: 13 Apr 1876
Death Place: Queensland
Father: Geo Ward
Mother: Jane Tuck
Registration Year: 1876
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration number: 001176
Page Number: 15438

James Ward
Death Date: 1 Dec 1877
Death Place: Queensland
Father: Peter Ward
Mother: Margaret Millifont Sutton
Registration Year: 1878
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration number: B012117
Page Number: 15438

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This can be possibly discounted, he would only be about 9y..

James Ward
Death Date: 13 Apr 1876
Death Place: Queensland
Father: Geo Ward
Mother: Jane Tuck
Registration Year: 1876
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration number: 001176
Page Number: 15438
Marriages Q2 1866
TUCK Jane
Ward George
Royston
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Births Q1 1867
Ward James
Royston
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My MELLEFONTS from Cork were not RC. Lots were baptised at St Anne Shandon (Church of Ireland)

MELLIFONTS of 16 Douglas Street Cork City,mid to late 1800's. PATRICK MELLIFONT married ELLEN BYRNE and they later lived at 3 Evergreen Street.THOMAS MELLIFONT (my great-grandfather)was their first son.Thomas married MARGARET SUTTON (daughter of THOMAS SUTTON and MARY McCARTHYof LangfordRow, in the civil parish of St.Nicholas)at St.Finbarrs(RC)church.Thomas and Margaret emigrated to Australia in 1862.
JAMES MELLIFONT married ELLEN LINEHAN of South Parish Cork,MICHAEL MELLIFONT married MARY DINEEN of Douglas Parish,ROBERT MELLIFONT married MARGARET FLANAGAN of South Parish Cork.
Interesting that there is another branch of the family in Australia. France in 1600s to Wales, then to Ireland, then to Australia.
 
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I cant find a death notice for James died 1877. His burial doesnt seem to help any neither.

Lots buried in the same grave.

Toowong Cemetery
Portion 16 section 7 grave 34

Harper William 24 / 10 / 1890 Unknown
Morgan Reginald 05 / 11 / 1890 Unknown
Veen Charles 07 / 11 / 1890 Unknown
Haughton 14 / 03 / 1923 0 stillborn
Hawkins Leonard 19 / 03 / 1923 Unknown
Rickards Helen Millicent 06 / 11 / 1890 Unknown
Binger 14 / 03 / 1923 0 stillborn
McSweeney 16 / 03 / 1923 0 stillborn
Gray 27 / 03 / 1923 0 stillborn
Ward James 02 / 12 / 1877 Unknown
Heap Madona Rhubena Margaret 19 / 03 / 1923 Unknown
McKay George David 26 / 10 / 1890 Unknown
 
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I have information about Peter Ward and Margaret Mellifont Sutton. They lived around Dalby/Chinchilla area of Queensland, Australia. Margaret died in 1878 or 1877.. they had a number of children. If you feel you are related to these people and wish to share info I am happy to contribute what I know.

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Hi gibbo..

Yeah, especially the 2nd one, Dave has Millifont or Mellefont in one of his lines...

James Ward
Death Date: 13 Apr 1876
Death Place: Queensland
Father: Geo Ward
Mother: Jane Tuck
Registration Year: 1876
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration number: 001176
Page Number: 15438

James Ward
Death Date: 1 Dec 1877
Death Place: Queensland
Father: Peter Ward
Mother: Margaret Millifont Sutton
Registration Year: 1878
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration number: B012117
Page Number: 15438

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Hello,

Essie L P WARD is one connection to my tree via my cousin Anne Margaret FURNER.

I'm not sure how Patrick would fit in because this is my MELLEFONT line:

John b. 25 Aug 1749 Waterford - parents Walter & Alice

John William b. 22 Apr 1798

Anne b. 7 Dec 1831 St Anne Shandon Cork d. 26 Nov 1882 Rathkeale

- married William HAMILTON 2 Sep 1858 Scots Church, Cobh


I have some queries.

What are the details and source for the marriage of Thomas to Margaret SUTTON in 1861?

If they arrived in Australia in 1862 by what vessel and what port of arrival? Assisted or unassisted?

When and where was Margaret SUTTON born?

James Ward
Death Date: 1 Dec 1877
Death Place: Queensland
Father: Peter Ward
Mother: Margaret Millifont Sutton
Registration Year: 1878
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration number: B012117
Page Number: 15438


When and where did Peter and Margaret WARD die?

Death 21 Jul 1877/C0467 Millefont Margaret - Thos. Sutton - ** born Ireland aged 32 years

Death 1899/B31510 Mellifont Thomas - Patrick Mellifont - Ellen Byrne

When and where was son James born? If not born in Australia, when did James WARD arrive?

There seems to be no entry in NSW BMD index for the 1851 marriage. If married in a church then which one in Sydney or suburbs?

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Hi Dave

Strictly speaking I dont have Margaret Sutton nor Peter Ward in my family tree. Margaret was my great grandfathers first wife- and I descend from the second wife.

Also my surname is Mellifont, but in various records the name is often mis-spelt, although there is a distinct different family of Mellefonts that emigrated to Queensland from Cork and they are the William Peel Mellefonts who owned newspapers.

My great-grandfather Thomas Mellifont, who married Margaret Sutton at St Finbarr's (Catholic) Church 16 Deb 1861. Margaret was baptised there 6 December 1839. I found these records at http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/

Margaret's parents were THOS SUTTON & MARY MCCARTHY

In 1862 Thomas and Margaret emigrated to Moreton Bay on 'The Chatsworth'. If you google around there is a diary of the voyage which was made by William Kirk. This voyage was one of 3 boatloads of poor Irish who were part sponsored by the Catholic Church. Arch Bishop James Quinn in Brisbane created the Catholic Immigration Society- as free settlers were given a grant of land, Quinn got money to bring poor Irish over, their voyage was paid by their signing over the land grant to the Church, the church would then sell the land and bring another boat load over. Quinn got 3 boatloads over before the English run government shut the program down.

Margaret became pregnant on the voyage and would have been well pregnant on arrival at Moreton Bay. Thomas gained a position as shepherd at Caimkillenbar Sheep station (now Kaimkillenbun near Dalby Qld). The baby Joseph Patrick was born in 1963 and lived only 57 days. The baby is buried at Kaimkillenbar cemetery and listed on this plaque-

https://www.flickr.com/photos/81005713@N08/8295203583/in/set-72157634142389568

This is what the station looked like back in the day-
https://www.flickr.com/photos/81005713@N08/8295198783/in/set-72157634142389568

After this Thomas and Margaret seem to have gone separate ways. There was an outbreak of measles on The Chatsworth so perhaps the baby was born with some deformity such as Encephalytis. As good Catholics didn't divorce the whole story is shrouded in mystery and my parents and/or grandparents certainly didn't discuss such matters.

Margaret took out an ad in the Govt Gazette in 23 May 1865 (presumably as Thomas was away droving sheep for weeks and months at a time) which read "If Thomas Mellifont will not write and send means of support to his wife, within three months of this date, 23rd of May, she will consider herself at liberty to marry again"

Margaret hooked up with Peter Ward who worked in timber, they lived around Dalby and had several children. The story goes that he was working building the train line near Chinchilla and they were living in a tent/camp near that site and she died. I have never found an official marriage registration for the couple, I dont believe they were officially married but they certainly were a couple and had children.

She has 6 children to a Peter Ward, but 3 of the children have duplicate birth registrations listing no father and giving them the surname Millifont or Millefont, for another child Margaret registers herself as being 'Margaret Millefont Sutton'

so her children were -
1866 May Kate Ward - mother: Margaret Sutton father: Peter Ward but the birth is also registered as May Kate Millifont mother: Margaret Sutton father: nil
1867 Thomas Ward - mother: Margaret Sutton father: Peter Ward but the birth is also registered as Thomas Millifont mother: Margaret Sutton father: nil (Margaret's father was named Thomas)
1868 Robert John Ward - mother: Margaret Millefont Sutton father: Peter Ward
1869 John Peter Ward - mother: Margaret Millefont Sutton father: Peter Ward
1871 William Ward - mother: Margaret Millefont Sutton father: Peter Ward
1877 James Ward Ward (not a misprint) - mother: Margaret Millefont Sutton father: Peter Ward but the birth is also registered as James Ward Millefont mother: Margaret Sutton father: nil

Her death record in 1877 lists her as Millefont - 1877 Margaret Millefont father:Thos. Sutton - ** born Ireland aged 32 years

in 2012 I spent the year compiling a Mellifont family history book, this is the article I wrote about Margaret. If you click the page should zoom bigger.
http://rstus.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/page-020.jpg

I think the voyage to Australia was too much for Margaret. Maybe the first baby was born deformed due to the measles, and perhaps in a less scientific era she was blamed. I also imagine having sheep drover for a husband makes for a lonely sad life. I think she had a difficult time in Australia.

I dont know what happened to Peter Ward or the children.

There is a Peter Ward listed in this horse race meeting-
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/75512627

Little is know about my great-grandfather Thomas Mellifont between their arrival and until the year after Margaret's death, when he then became manager of Telavera Station at Surat and in 1879 married Marianne McWade who was my great-grand mother.

Happy to discuss anything further.
cheers
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Possibly Margaret died from birth complications as she died 9 days after the birth of her last child.

QLD birth index
1877 C930 James Ward Ward Peter Margaret Sutton
12th July 1877

QLD death index
1877 C467 Margaret Millefont Thos. Sutton - ** born Ireland aged 32 years
21st July 1877

You may already know this.
 

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I wonder if this another example of an Anc. error :rolleyes:

James Ward
Death Date: 1 Dec 1877
Death Place: Queensland
Father: Peter Ward
Mother: Margaret Millifont Sutton
Registration Year: 1878
Registration Place: Queensland
Registration Number: B012117
Page Number: 15438

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