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Jane COCHRANE

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Name: James
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 2 Nov 1845
Christening Place: LONDON ROAD UNITED PRESBYTERIAN, GLASGOW, LANARK, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 10 Sep 1845
Birthplace:
Father's Name: John Hutcheson
Mother's Name: Jane Cochrane
Batch: C191641


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Piece: SCT1841/622 Place: Barony -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 15
Civil Parish: Barony Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 15 Page: 1
Address: Catherine St
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HUTCHISON John M 30 Millwright Jrnymn Outside Census County (1841)
HUTCHISON Jane F 25 Lanarkshire
HUTCHISON Archibald M 2 Lanarkshire
STEVENSON Margaret F 9 Lanarkshire
MARSHALL John M 25 Mason Journeyman Outside Census County (1841)
BRUCE Matthew M 20 Mason Apprentice Outside Census County (1841)

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Piece: SCT1851/622 Place: Barony -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 22
Civil Parish: Anderston Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Barony
Folio: 580 Page: 29 Schedule: 97
Address: 9 Catherine Street
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HUTCHISON John Head M M 40 Mill Wright Ayrshire - Riccarton
HUTCHISON Jean Wife M F 35 Millwrights Wife Lanarkshire - Barony
HUTCHISON Janet Dau U F 14 Scholar Lanarkshire - Glasgow
HUTCHISON Archd Son - M 11 Scholar Lanarkshire - Barony
HUTCHISON Jean Dau - F 7 Scholar Lanarkshire - Barony
Page: 580/30 MCKINNON Mary Niece U F 20 Power Loom Weaver Ayrshire - Riccarton


Death 1859 Jane HUTCHISON (COCHRAN) Cathcart, Glasgow City Age 49

Place of death looks like Beachend, Cathcart. Husband John was the informant. No occupation for John listed. Certificate is not easy to read.
Parents James COCHRAN and Jane M.S. WYLLIE, so a sister of Elizabeth.

Yes, looking for the nephew of Elizabeth nee COCHRANE who died 11 Sep 1873 - James HUTCHISON living in London Road at the time.

So where is son James HUTCHISON in 1851 and 1861 and 1871?
 
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A possibility for 1851...

Parish Number: 560
Civil Parish: Cathcart
Town: New Cathcart
County: Renfrewshire
Address: New Cathcart
ED: 2; Page: 38; Line: 4; Roll: CSSCT1851_117; Year: 1851

John Hutchison 39 [Dumbartonshire, Cotton Yarddresser]
Jane Hutchison 39 [Lanarks']
Jane Hutchison 18 [Sewer]
Elizabeth Hutchison 9
James Hutchison 5

All offspring b. Lanarks'

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Edit: Confirms John 1841 not BIC.
 
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Possible 1861

Registration number: 560
RD: Cathcart
Civil Parish: Cathcart
County: Renfrewshire
Address: New Cathcart Village
ED: 2; Page: 39; Line: 7; Roll: CSSCT1861_75

Elizabeth Hutcheson 19 [b. Partick, Lanark, Paper Mill Worker]
James Hutcheson 15 [Bro., b. Glasgow, Printfield Worker]
 

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The two in post #1 are not the right ones. This one has Jane not born in Lanark:

Piece: SCT1841/646 Place: Govan -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 9
Civil Parish: Partick Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 9 Page: 11
Address: Douglas Street Partick
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HUTCHESON John M 25 Dresser Outside Census County (1841)
HUTCHESON Jane F 25 Outside Census County (1841)
HUTCHESON Jane F 8 Lanarkshire
 

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The two in post #1 are not the right ones. This one has Jane not born in Lanark:

Piece: SCT1841/646 Place: Govan -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 9
Civil Parish: Partick Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 9 Page: 11
Address: Douglas Street Partick
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HUTCHESON John M 25 Dresser Outside Census County (1841)
HUTCHESON Jane F 25 Outside Census County (1841)
HUTCHESON Jane F 8 Lanarkshire
The occupation for John fits better, but Jane's birthplace :rolleyes:
 

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Occupation fits and so does daughter Jane. It must be a ditto in the column.

The 1859 death certificate is not easy to read so I will post it because I need help.

Don't know when John died, but sometime after Jane.

We know James was alive in 1873 and no death for him yet either.

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So now I have four children of James COCHRAN(E) & Jane WY(L)LIE and none with birth/baptism records it seems. Have a death for only two of them.
 

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I can't see a baptism for daughter Jane. I can't see a marriage for John & Jane. I can't see a marriage for James COCHRAN & Jane WYLIE or baptisms for any children.
 

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Is that Jane's parents, Dave?
Yes.

We have the following:

Jane died 1859 aged 49 and age 25 in 1841.

Anne buried in Largs 3 Jan 1843 - age 30 in 1841 - married Alexander MALCOLM

Andrew age 20 in 1841 - not found in 1851 and death not found

Elizabeth died 11 Sep 1873 age 51 - Nephew James Hutchison informant - married William KERR death not found 1851 - 1861

So, don't really know which one is the eldest. I should probably put Anne first.



Elizabeth - James Cochrane - Mason (Journeyman) (deceased) & Jane Cochrane M.S. Wylie (deceased)

Jane - James Cochran - Traveller (deceased) & Jane Cochran M.S. Wyllie (deceased)
 
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One tree has Jane Hutcheson's death in 1915 in Geelong, Victoria. Nothing for brother James after 1851 census. Nothing for sister Elizabeth after 1861 census. Nothing for John after 1851 census.

Curious, if they have Elizabeth in 1861 why don't they have James in same household?


No birth, death or residence for either James Cochran or spouse Jane nee Wylie.

Another tree has death for John Hutchison in 1861 Royal Infirmary.
 

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Jane Perrins
Death Place: Geelong, Victoria
Age: 81
Father: Hutchinson Jno
Mother: Jane
Registration Year: 1915
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 1521
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
 

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Hmmmm...

Name: James Devine
Birth Date: 20 Feb 1871
Birthplace: CATHCART,RENFREW,SCOTLAND
Father's Name: Joseph Devine
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Hutcheson
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11560-1
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
GS Film number: 6035516
 

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Samuel Devine
Birth Date: 12 Mar 1873
Birthplace: CATHCART,RENFREW,SCOTLAND
Father: Joseph Devine
Mother: Elizabeth Hutcheson
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11560-1
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
GS Film number: 6035516
 

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Thanks Geoff.

Interesting that the index has this:

1859 HUTCHISON JANE WYLLIE COCHRAN F 49 CATHCART (LANARK) GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 560/00 0011

and the death certificate is headed:

Page 4
1859 DEATHS in the Parish of Cathcart in the County of Renfrew
 

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"CATHCART, parish, chiefly in Renfrewshire, but partly in Lanarkshire, and including parts of the southern suburbs of Glasgow. ..."
So it depends but still curious the index does not agree with the death certificate.
 

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