Jane FAIRFULL

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

The tree indicated Mary was born Everley and in 1861 census. Also seemed to indicate James died before 1851.

There is a marriage that says James is a baker so that fits.

I'm off to have lunch now and will check again in 30 minutes then I'm out all afternoon.

Dave

 

[horse]

Ok, Dave.. speak later.

 

[DaveHam9]

This should be Anne and remains of family. Daughter Jane Eliza not yet found in 1851.

Name: Anne Edwards
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1841
Gender: Female
Age: 44
Birthplace: Middlesex
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: St Marylebone
Sub-District: All Souls & Trinity
Parish: St Marylebone
County: Middlesex

It seems to be the correct burial for Abraham in 1832 yet age in census and age at death indicate Jane was born around 1835. Marriage clearly say father is Abraham, a coachman.

Catch you in about 4 hours Geoff.

 

[horse]

This should be Anne and remains of family minus Jane Elza:



It seems to be the correct burial for Abraham in 1832 yet age in census and age at death indicate Jane was born around 1835. Marriage clearly say father is Abraham, a coachman.

Catch you in about 4 hours Geoff.

Yeah, I can't fathom that

Ok, Dave...

 

[DaveHam9]

Charlotte at least 21 but no baptism found for 1817-1821 but her age fits with the 1817 banns.

Marriages Sep Qtr 1841
Edwards Charlotte Wandsworth 4 491
McKEE Scott Wandsworth 4 491

 

[horse]

Charlotte at least 21 but no baptism found for 1817-1821 but her age fits with the 1817 banns.

Charlotte Augusta Edwards
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 21 Apr 1822
Father: Abram Edwards
Mother: Ann Edwards
Parish or Poor Law Union: St George Hanover Square
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
[Occ: Coachman]

Geoff

 

[horse]

Image confirms father Abraham, coachman (doesn't say dec.) Being of full age, she must have been b. 1819, 3y before bap. Still within range (parents banns 1817).

Charlotte Edwards [Full age]
Spouse: Scott McKee
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 15 Sep 1841
Parish: Battersea St Mary
Borough: Wandsworth
Father: Abraham Edwards
Spouse Father: Scott Mckee
Register Type: Parish Register

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

That's good to have details for Charlotte. Now it seems only the baptism for Jane Eliza has not been found.

I think a marriage in 1847 lists Abraham as deceased.

 

[yibadee]

Hi Dave,
Brent here in Perth, WA,
I don't know if we have communicated before, what is your current interest with regards to Jane Fairfull and grand-daughter Rosa Flora Sadler.?
Janes son John Robert was my 2nd G Grandfather

All the best
Brent

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Brent and welcome to the Forum.


I have a remote connection via Emanuel A/Manuel Antony/Anthony's brothers Joseph John and William James who married POWELL sisters and back to Elizabeth SANDS.

I tend to trace siblings as well which takes me well off the main line.

I was interested in correcting some trees re the SADLER family.

Dave

 

[yibadee]

Me Again Dave,
Is that Emmanuel da Silva you refer to.?, I could never find much on him or his eventual fate.

Are you still seeking any particular Sadler information at all..?

Brent

 

[DaveHam9]

Not sure re SADLER without checking.

Emmanuel just one of many variations in his name in records. He was the youngest of 9 children. I have some info on him I can post.

NSW Marriage 10/1892 SILVA EMMANUEL A - SADLER ROSA - SYDNEY

 

[DaveHam9]

NSW Birth 4657/1870 SILVA MANUEL A - JOSEPH - SUSANNA - PADDINGTON


1913 NSW Electoral Roll - MUDGEE - GULGONG POLLING-PLACE
811 SILVA Manuel Anthony, Gulgong, engine-driver
812 SILVA Rosa, Gulgong, domestic duties

Enlisted Lithgow, NSW 14 Aug 1915 - S/N 9769 1 Field Amb AAMC - 45 Railway engine driver - NOK wife Rosa Silva living at Church St Mudgee, NSW - Embarked Sydney, NSW SS 'Makarini' 5 Apr 1916 - Died 5 Dec 1916 Military Hospital Chatham, England of disease - Perforated Gastric Ulcer - Buried 8 Dec 1916 Fort Pitt Cemetery, Chatham, England CofE Section- Grave 1425.

Roll of Honour
Manuel Antony SILVA
Rank Private [Pte]
Service Number 9769
Unit 1 Field Amb AUSTRALIAN Army Medical Corps
Service Army
Conflict 1914-1918
Date of Death 5 December 1916
Cause of Death Died of sickness
Cemetery or Memorial Details KENT 61 Fort Pitt Military Cemetery
Native place WATSON'S BAY, NSW
War Grave Register Notes SILVA, Pte. Manuel Antony, 9769. 1st Field Amb. AAM Corps. Died of sickness 5th Dec., 1916. Age 46. Son of Joseph and Susannah Union SILVA; husband of Rosa SILVA, of MYALLA, NSW. Native of WATSON'S BAY, NSW 1425.
Source AWM145 Roll of Honour cards, 1914-1918 War, Army

 

[DaveHam9]

His parents:

V184820 138/1848 SILVER JOSEPH - DAVEY SUSANNA - LD
V18481239 95/1848 SILVER JOSEPH - DAVEY SUSANNA - LD

I, Joseph Silver do hereby declare that I am a Member of, or hold Communion with, the Roman Catholic Church [signed] Joseph (his x mark) Silver
I, Sussana (her x mark) Davey South Head Road
I, John Ignatius McLennan, of Sydney, Minister of St. Mary's Church, do hereby certify that, Joseph Silver of Sydney and Susanna Davey of South Head were joined together in Wedlock by me on the 28th day of November 1848, at St. Mary's Sydney, in the presence of William Davey South Head & Amelia Davey South Head. Witness to all the marks and signatures [signed] B. A. Casey ?
[signed] J. I. McLennan Roman Catholic Minister

No. 146
Joseph Silver (His x mark)
Susanna Davey (Her x mark)
I John Ignatius McLennan of Sydney Minister of St Mary's Church
joined together in wedlock by me on 28th November 1848 at St Mary's Church
Witnesses: William & Amelia Davey, both of South Head rode ? Sydney

 

[DaveHam9]

NSW Naturalisation
SILVA Joseph Western Islands (Azores) 18 Mar 1859 3 1 - [4/1202] 130

Copy of the naturalisation certificate of Joseph Silva dated 18 March 1859. He is described as a "native of the Western Islands, aged thirty two, arrived by the ship 'Ivanhoe' in 1844 and now residing in Watsons Bay". He is "desirous of holding real estate in the said colony."


NSW Death 1187/1891 SILVA JOSEPH UNKNOWN UNKNOWN SYDNEY

The cause of death was Chronic bronchitis and general debility.
He was buried on 4 Aug 1891 in South Head Cemetery.

SOUTH HEAD CEMETERY
NAME: Joseph Silva
AGE: 67
DEATH DATE: 2 August 1891
DENOMINATION: General
DETAILS: Section: G, Row: 5, Grave: 195
INSCRIPTION: Husband of above.

 

[DaveHam9]

NSW Death 5261/1888 SILVA SUSAN AGE 56 YEARS DIED PADDINGTON WOOLLAHRA

SILVIA Susan Funeral notice 19NOV1888 Memorial Service late of Watson's Bay SMH 19NOV1888

The cause of death was English Cholera. She was buried on 19 Nov 1888 in South Head Cemetery.

SOUTH HEAD CEMETERY
NAME: Susan Silva
AGE: (Not stated)
DEATH DATE: 17 November 1888
DENOMINATION: General
DETAILS: Section: G, Row: 5, Grave: 195
INSCRIPTION: Wife of Joseph Silva. 56 yrs 6 mths.