Jane HUTCHISON

[DaveHam9]

Cochran and Wyllie are variations.

Elizabeth's brother Andrew

1841
Piece: SCT1841/654 Place: Rutherglen -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 20
Civil Parish: Rutherglen Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 20 Page: 6
Address: Main Street
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
KERR William M 25 Coal Miner Lanarkshire
KERR Elisabeth F 20 Lanarkshire
COCHRAN Andrew M 20 Lanarkshire

No occupation in 1841 and don't know if this is the right death.

09/05/1848 COCHRANE ANDREW M GLASGOW GLASGOW CITY CITY/LANARK 644/01 0570 0186

From the Royal Infirmary Glasgow
1848 May Died 9 Funeral 11 Andw. Cochrane Quarrier Gorbals Buried in the Lair of Common Ground Fever Age 32

Not this one
08/11/1842 COCHRAN ANDREW M GLASGOW GLASGOW CITY CITY/LANARK 644/01 0670 0135

Andrew COCHRAN 7 months son of mason

 

[DaveHam9]

James & Jane DONALD and James & Jane AITKEN

14/04/1807 COCHRAN JAMES JAMES COCHRAN/JANE DONALD FR375 M KILBARCHAN /RENFREW 568/00 0010 0481

11/04/1819 COCHRAN JOHN JAMES COCHRAN/JANE AITKEN FR1258 M ABBEY /RENFREW 559/00 0030 0572

Two death certificates with the same parents - one informant a husband John Hutchison and the other a nephew, his son James Hutchison. So how reliable is 'James' and 'Jane Wylie' ??

Jane abt 1810
Anne abt 1811
Andrew abt 1818
Elizabeth 1818-1822

So can't tell how many children might be missing to use naming pattern.

 

[horse]

Is it definitely Wylie, not Aitken ?

Geoff

 

[horse]

So how reliable is 'James' and 'Jane Wylie' ??

Would question that..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Is it definitely Wylie, not Aitken ?

Geoff

No idea Geoff. I thought reliable since it's on two certificates but checking informants maybe not. Same info passed down to son.

 

[DaveHam9]

1 14/04/1807 cochran james james cochran/jane donald fr375 m kilbarchan /renfrew 568/00 0010 0481
2 10/02/1809 cochran john james cochran/jane donald fr379 m kilbarchan /renfrew 568/00 0010 0489
3
4 11/07/1803 cochran william james cochran/jane donald fr 368 m kilbarchan /renfrew 568/00 0010 0468
5 27/10/1814 cochrane alexander james cochrane/jane donald fr387 m kilbarchan /renfrew 568/00 0010 0505
6 07/07/1811 cochrane jane james cochrane/jane donald fr382 f kilbarchan /renfrew 568/00 0010 0496
7 29/04/1805 cochrane margaret james cochrane/jane donald fr 371 f kilbarchan /renfrew 568/00 0010 0474

I would say it's not that one.

I only found the one AITKEN.

 

[horse]

So, would the 1851 census in post #1 be definitely correct?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

1841
Piece: SCT1841/646 Place: Govan -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 9
Civil Parish: Partick Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 9 Page: 11
Address: Douglas Street Partick
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HUTCHESON John M 25 Dresser Outside Census County (1841)
HUTCHESON Jane F 25 Outside Census County (1841)
HUTCHESON Jane F 8 Lanarkshire


James Hutcheson b. 10 Sep 1845
Christening Date: 2 Nov 1845
Christening Place: LONDON ROAD SESSION, GLASGOW, LANARK, SCOTLAND
John Hutcheson & Jane Cochrane
Batch: C190221

1873 DEATHS in the District of Govan Church in the County of Lanark
No. 851 Elizabeth Kerr Widow of William Kerr, Coal Miner - 1873 September Eleventh 7h. 0m. A.M. 4 Shields Terrace, Murray Park - F - 51 Years - James Cochrane Mason (Journeyman) (deceased) & Jane Cochrane M.S. Wylie (deceased) - Phthisis Some months as Certified by John Dregall ? M.D. Surgeon - James Hutchison Nephew 209 London Road, Glasgow - 1783 September 13th At Govan Thomas Steel Registrar

 

[DaveHam9]

William Cochran
marriage: 29 May 1802 , Kilbarchan, Renfrew
spouse: Jane Barr

Mungo Cochran
marriage: 15 October 1808 Avondale, Lanark
spouse: Jane Allison

John Cochran
marriage: 14 July 1805 , Lanark, Lanark
spouse: Isobella Paterson

John Cochran
marriage: 15 April 1809 Avondale, Lanark
spouse: Barbara Findlay

William Cochran
marriage: 25 July 1801 Avondale, Lanark
spouse: Jean Fleming


too many to continue

 

[DaveHam9]

If it is not Jane Wylie then there are 5 baptisms in Lanark for an Andrew Cochran.

A baptism for an Elizabeth with matching parents.

Not one for Jane or Anne with same parents.

 

[horse]

James & Jane DONALD and James & Jane AITKEN

14/04/1807 COCHRAN JAMES JAMES COCHRAN/JANE DONALD FR375 M KILBARCHAN /RENFREW 568/00 0010 0481

11/04/1819 COCHRAN JOHN JAMES COCHRAN/JANE AITKEN FR1258 M ABBEY /RENFREW 559/00 0030 0572

The above and James Cochran & Jane Wylie appears to be where the problem lies

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

If we rule out Wylie and assume James and Jane are correct then we are missing a son James.

If we assume James and Jane and Wylie are all wrong and look at the only son we have Andrew then there are three marriages for an Andrew Cochran - Catherine McKenzie, Agnes Brewer, Jean Foster.

Can't find baptisms for the four children we have with same parents. We are stuck.

 

[DaveHam9]

father: James Cochrane
mother: Lilias Allan


James Cochran
birth: 12 July 1809
christening: 23 July 1809 , RUTHERGLEN, LANARK

John Cochrane
birth: 28 February 1811
christening: 3 March 1811 , RUTHERGLEN, LANARK

William Cochrane
birth: 2 November 1812
christening: 15 November 1812 , RUTHERGLEN, LANARK

Andrew Cochrane
birth: 22 January 1815
christening: 29 January 1815 , RUTHERGLEN, LANARK

Lilias Cochrane
birth: 14 September 1816
christening: 22 September 1816 , RUTHERGLEN, LANARK

Elizabeth Cochran
birth: 1 February 1819
christening: 7 February 1819 , RUTHERGLEN, LANARK

James Cochrane
birth: 1 February 1821
christening: 18 February 1821 , RUTHERGLEN, LANARK


No Jane and no Anne.

 

[horse]

Has to be a link somewhere, i.e. a second marriage or no first marriage

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Probably coincidence Elizabeth and Andrew are in Rutherglen in 1841.

The later census for Elizabeth does not have pob as Rutherglen.

They are probably in Rutherglen because of William

William b. 7 Sep 1814 c. 25 Sep 1814 Rutherglen, Lanark, Scotland
Thomas KERR & Mareon Warnock
Batch: C116542


I'd say we give this a rest.

Dave

 

[horse]

I'd say we give this a rest.

Yep, can't disagree with that at present

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

1909 & 1914 VIC Electoral Roll - Corio - Geelong
PERRINS Jane, 7 William st., Geelong, home duties