Jane MATTHEWS

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Jane MATTHEWS c. 25 May 1828 Crowan, Cornwall
Benjamin MATTHEWS & Mary

Mary Ann MATTHEWS c. 17 September 1826 Crowan, Cornwall
Benjamin MATTHEWS & Mary

Martha MATTHEWS c. 2 October 1831 Crowan, Cornwall
Benjamin MATTHEWS & Mary

So neither Mary nor Martha are Jane:

1841
HO107/141/7 Place: Penwith -Cornwall Enumeration District: 8
Civil Parish: Crowan Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 54 Page: 3
Address: Tremayn
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MATTHEWS Benjamin M 45 Farmer Cornwall
MATTHEWS Mary F 35 Cornwall
MATTHEWS Mary F 15 Cornwall
MATTHEWS Martha F 10 Cornwall
MATTHEWS Sarah F 8 Cornwall
MATTHEWS Elizabeth F 6 Cornwall
MATTHEWS Caroline F 2 Cornwall
MATTHEWS Sophia F 4m Cornwall
MATTHEWS Mary F 65 Independent Cornwall

Marriages Jun Qtr 1847
Nancarrow John Redruth 9 306
MATHEWS Jane Redruth 9 306

I'm having no luck finding Jane in 1841. Being a common name in Cornwall there are several in 1841 but they are with parents other than Benjamin & Mary.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

1851
Piece: HO107/1916 Place: Camborne -Cornwall Enumeration District: 1m
Civil Parish: Camborne Ecclesiastical Parish: St John's Treslothan
Folio: 365 Page: 17 Schedule: 63
Address: Knavegoby
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MATTHEWS Benjn Head M M 57 Husbandman Cornwall - Breage
MATTHEWS Mary Wife M F 46 Cornwall - Crowan
MATTHEWS Martha Dau U F 20 Mine Girl Cornwall - Crowan
MATTHEWS Elizabeth Dau - F 16 Mine Girl Cornwall - Crowan
MATTHEWS Caroline Dau - F 12 Mine Girl Cornwall - Crowan
MATTHEWS Sophia Dau - F 10 Scholar Cornwall - Crowan
MATTHEWS Bridget Dau - F 8 Scholar Cornwall - Crowan
MATTHEWS Eliza Dau - F 6 Scholar Cornwall - Crowan
MATTHEWS Joanna Dau - F 3 Cornwall - Crowan


Benjamin MATTHEWS c. 11 May 1794 Breage, Cornwall
Benjamin & Mary

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't see a death for Benjamin before 1861 census and I also can't find him in 1861 census.

Lots of possible deaths for Mary.

Age does not fit for this one:

Deaths Mar Qtr 1868
Matthews Benjamin 67 Helston 5c 162

Name: Benjamin Matthews
Burial Date: 2 Feb 1868
Burial Place: Breage

 

[DaveHam9]

A tree has death for Benjamin in 1872 in Camborne.

Neither fit for age so is the tree correct?

Deaths Sep Qtr 1872
Matthews Benjamin 69 Redruth 5c 146
Deaths Dec Qtr 1872
MATTHEWS Benjamin 87 Redruth 5c 177


FreeCEN has 100% coverage supposedly but I can't find Benjamin in 1861 or 1871.

 

[DaveHam9]

Several trees have Benjamin's residence in 1861 as Camborne.

1861
Piece: RG9/1584 Place: Redruth -Cornwall Enumeration District: 14
Civil Parish: Camborne Ecclesiastical Parish: St. Johns
Folio: 131 Page: 2 Schedule: 10
Address: Knavegoby
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MATHEWS Benjamin Head M M 67 Farmer Cornwall - Breage
MATHEWS Mary Wife M F 55 - Cornwall - Crowan
MATHEWS Martha Dau U F 27 - Cornwall - Crowan
MATHEWS Bridget Dau U F 18 - Cornwall - Crowan
MATHEWS Eliza Dau U F 16 Cornwall - Crowan
MATHEWS Johanna Dau U F 14 Cornwall - Crowan
MATHEWS Benjamin Grnson - M 3 - Cornwall - Camborne

 

[horse]

1871
B Mathews
Born abt 1790 Crowan, Cornwall
Occ: Farmer, 14 acres

Civil Parish: Camborne
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Tolcarne
County: Cornwall
RD: Redruth
Sub-RD: Camborne
ED: 14
RG10; Piece: 2326; Folio: 49; Page

B Mathews 81
M Mathews 67 [b. abt 1804 Crowan]
J Mathews 22 [b. abt 1849, do ]

 

[horse]

A tree has death for Benjamin in 1872 in Camborne.

Deaths Sep Qtr 1872
Matthews Benjamin 69 Redruth 5c 146

This probate appears to fit the above, but as you say, age at death is out!

Benjamin Matthews
Probate Date: 4 Mar 1873
Death Date: 19 Sep 1872
Death Place: Cornwall, England
Registry: Bodmin

 

[horse]

Probate image..

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Some things don't seem to add up.

Born Crowan not Breage.

Where are sons Benjamin and Oliver? I can't see baptisms.

 

[horse]

Breage and Crowan are only 4-5 miles apart, but yes there are niggles

 

[DaveHam9]

Well...

120,Knavegobye,1,B Mathews,Head,M,81,,Farmer 14 Acres,Crowan Cornwall,,
,,,M Mathews,Wife,M,,67,,Crowan Cornwall,,
,,,J Mathews,Dau,U,,22,,Crowan Cornwall,,

does fit.

 

[DaveHam9]

Says 'Gentleman' not pauper or retired or worn out farmer.

 

[horse]

Thanks Geoff.

Some things don't seem to add up.

Born Crowan not Breage.

Where are sons Benjamin and Oliver? I can't see baptisms.

I wasn't aware of sons Benjamin and Oliver, there is a grandson, Benjamin

 

[DaveHam9]

Probate notice lists daughter Mary and two sons. I think that's a different Benjamin.

 

[DaveHam9]

Mary ****
christening: 16 June 1805 CROWAN,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
father: Waltar ****
mother: Mary


Benjamin MATTHEWS & Mary ****
29 Oct 1825 Crowan, Cornwall


I started off with daughter Jane because she ended up in Australia. Her death reg does not help because it lists her father as Benjamin MATTHEWS and her mother as Jane MATTHEWS.

As I mentioned in the Edward RODD topic the Victorian death certificates often don't give the mother's maiden name just the married name. Mother's name Jane I'm sure is an error.

 

[horse]

Probate notice lists daughter Mary and two sons. I think that's a different Benjamin.

It doesn't say they are sons, they could be grandsons...

 

[DaveHam9]

Post #8 Geoff.

 

[horse]

Post #8 Geoff.

Yes, but is say daughter Mary and Benjamin etc, not son Benjamin...

 

[DaveHam9]

...the Sons the Executors.

I can't see a Jane who fits in 1841.

I'll check the images and see if the 1847 marriage is there.

EDIT: Marriages end at 1830.

 

[horse]

May be there are 2 Benjamin's, this one fits the death, has a Jane but not an obvious Mary...

1841
Benjamin Matthews
Born abt 1801 Cornwall
Occ: Mason

Civil Parish: Breage
Hundred: Kerrier
County: Cornwall
RD: Helston
Sub-RD: Breage
ED: 5
HO107; Piece: 136; Book: 3

Benjamin Matthews 40
Rebecca Matthews 40
Richard Matthews 10
Jane Matthews 6
Ann Matthews 2
[All BIC]

Geoff