Janet SCOBIE nee HUNTER

[DaveHam9]

Andrew SCOBIE & Janet HUNTER
16 Jun 1871 Eddleston, Peebles, Scotland

NSW Death 15418/1922 SCOBIE ANDREW - ANDREW - JEAN - CANTERBURY

SCOBIE Andrew Death notice 28NOV1922 Death 78 late of Canterbury SMH 30NOV1922

Rookwood Cemetery
Presbyterian 5D 0001516 SCOBIE ANDREW 28 Nov 1922

Death 6024/1936 SCOBIE JANET - WILLIAM - MARY - SYDNEY

Not in Ryerson

I can't find age at death or burial for Janet.

Also shipping record says Andrew's parents were Andrew and Mary HUNTER (relation ?) but death reg has mother as Jean.

 

[gibbo]

The Sydney Morning Herald
Monday 27 April 1936

SCOBIE.-The Relatives and Friends of the late JANET SCOBIE are kindly invited to attend her Funeral: to leave her daughter's residence, 37 O'Connor-street, city, THIS (Monday) AFTERNOON, at 1.30 o'clock, for the Presbyterian Cemetery, Rookwood. " . __

 

[DaveHam9]

I wonder:

Janet Hunter
birth: 4 January 1849
christening: 18 March 1849 Free Church, Dalkeith, Midlothian
father: William Hunter
mother: Jean King

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

I did check Presbyterian Rookwood using Scobie and Scobbie.

I checked again for Presbyterian 5D for just Janet and no match.

I checked again for all Presbyteran for just Janet and no match.

 

[gibbo]

I checked the cemetery as well and nothing. She is probably buried with Andrew and for some reason isnt in the indexes.

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, not in the index.

The 1849 one does not agree with age in 1881 and 1882:

1881
Civil Parish: Liberton
Registration District: Liberton
County: Midlothian
SCOBIE Andrew Head 32 Coal Miner Lime, Peeblesshire
SCOBIE Janet wife 27 Coal Miner's Wife Dalkeith, Midlothian
SCOBIE Mary Jane dau 8 Scholar Eddleston, Peebles
SCOBIE Andrew son 6 Scholar Lasswade, Midlothian
SCOBIE Janet dau 4 Lasswade, Midlothian
SCOBIE Wm Jas son 1 Penicuick, Midlothian


Assisted Immigrants
SCOBIE Andrew 32 Orontes 1882 Sydney and family Reels 2142, 2493
SCOBIE Janet 28 Orontes 1882 Sydney and family Reels 2142, 2493

 

[DaveHam9]

We are looking for the following marriages:

Andrew SCOBIE & Mary or Jean HUNTER - Andrew b. abt 1844 Peebles

William HUNTER & Mary Unknown - Janet b. abt 1853 Dalkeith

 

[gibbo]

Wonder if we find Janet in the 1871 census would help

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, and Andrew and 1861.


Name: Andrew Scobie
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Birthplace: Peeblesshire
Registration District: Eddlestone
County: Peeblesshire
Birth Year (Estimated): 1846
GS Film number: 104070


Can't see Andrew in 1861.


1851
Name: Andrew Scobbie
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1851
Gender: Male
Age: 7
Birthplace: Peebles
Registration District:
County: Midlothian
Birth Year (Estimated): 1844
GS Film number: 1042513

 

[DaveHam9]

Only one Janet and several Janes so don't know about 1871.


Name: Jane Hunter
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1861
Gender: Female
Age: 8
Birthplace: Midlothian
Registration District: Dalkeith
County: Midlothian
Birth Year (Estimated): 1853
GS Film number: 103873

 

[gibbo]

Yes, and Andrew and 1861.


Name: Andrew Scobie
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Birthplace: Peeblesshire
Registration District: Eddlestone
County: Peeblesshire
Birth Year (Estimated): 1846
GS Film number: 104070


Can't see Andrew in 1861.

1871

BROWN John Head 22 Forester Lanarkshire - Symington
BROWN Jane Wife 22 Peebles-shire - Stobo
SCOBIE Andrew Lodger 25 Labourer Peebles-shire - Peebles

 

[DaveHam9]

1841
Piece: 768 Place: Peebles -Peebles-shire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Peebles Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 0 Page: 4
Address: North Side Old Town
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MATHISON Alexander M 25 Male Servant Peebles-shire
MATHISON Lee F 25 Peebles-shire
MATHISON Isabella F 6 Peebles-shire
MATHISON Alexander M 4 Peebles-shire
MATHISON James M 1 Peebles-shire
ANDERSON Hannah F 30 Peebles-shire
FORSYTH Violet F 35 Peebles-shire
ANDERSON David M 8 Peebles-shire
ANDERSON Margaret F 1 Peebles-shire
SCOBIE Andrew M 30 Agricultural Labourer Outside Census County (1841)
SCOBIE Jean F 25 Peebles-shire
SCOBIE Joan F 2 Peebles-shire
SCOBIE Isabella F 4m Peebles-shire
Page: 0/5 MATHISON Ann F 6m Peebles-shire


So it looks as though the death reg is right with Andrew & Jean. I will check the shipping record again because I wrote down Andrew Scobie & Mary Hunter as parents.

 

[DaveHam9]

The only one in Dalkeith.

1841
Piece: 683 Place: Dalkeith -Midlothian Enumeration District: 6
Civil Parish: Dalkeith Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 6 Page: 8
Address: Wicket
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HUNTER William M 50 Labourer Midlothian
HUNTER Mary F 50 Outside Census County (1841)
HUNTER Elisabeth F 13 Midlothian


Possibly too old.

 

[barbarajoh]

This could well be Janet in 71 as she is in the same small village as Andrew

MELROSE, Adam Head Absent Son Unmarried M 44 1827 Farmer Of 2500 Sheep Land & 300 Acres Peebles, Peeblesshire N/A
MELROSE, Patrick Son Unmarried M 34 1837 Peebles, Peeblesshire N/A
MELROSE, Mary R Daughter Unmarried F 20 1851 Arable Land Innerleithen, Peeblesshire N/A
MELROSE, John Son Unmarried M 25 1846 Tea Merchant Innerleithen, Peeblesshire N/A
NOBLE, Agness Visitor Unmarried F 41 1830 Tea Merchant Midlothian N/A
HUNTER, Janet Servant Unmarried F 21 1850 Domestic Servant Newbattle, Midlothian N/A
FRENCH, Margret Servant Unmarried F 22 1849 Farm Serv Liberton, Midlothian N/A
SHEARER, Isabella Servant Unmarried F 15 1856 Domestice Serv Carrington, Midlothian N/A
CALVIN, David Servant Unmarried M 26 1845 Farm Serv Mago Ireland N/A
EDDINGTON, John Servant Unmarried M 18 1853 Farm Serv Selkirk, Selkirkshire N/A
LITTLE, William Servant Unmarried M 19 1852 Farm Serv Ancrum, Roxburgh N/A
SALTON, Andrew Servant Unmarried M 14 1857 Farm Serv ? N/A
DRYSDALE, Thomas Servant Unmarried M 65 1806 Farm Serv Torryburn, Fife N/A

Piece: 760

Folio: 4

Page: 5

Registration District: Eddlestone

Civil Parish: Eddlestone

Municipal Borough:

Address: West Loch, Eddlestone

County: Peeblesshire

This is my area Dave so if I can help you let me know, can look at MIs for this area.

Barbara

 

[horse]

Possibly Andrew wrongly transcribed in 1861; name or mother change from 1851..

RD: Cramond
Civil Parish: Cramond
County: Midlothian
Address: N Lennie
Occupation: Farm Servant
ED: 3; Page: 10; Line: 1; Roll: CSSCT1861_122

Andrew Scoles 44 [b. Freeland, Kinross. Farm Servant]
Sarah Scoles 30 [Wife, b. E Calder]
Isabella Scoles 20 [b. Peebles]
Andrew Scoller 17 [do]
Jane Scoller 15 [do]
Agnes Scoller 10 [b. Edin]
Easter Scoller 8 [b. Mid Calder]
Sarah Scoller 4 [do]
Mary Scoller 1 [do]
Fanny Scoller 2 [do, g'dau]
Jane Heriot 1 [do, g'dau]
Vilot Forsyth 58 [Lodger]

1851 (full census)
Civil Parish: Edinburgh Old Church
County: Midlothian
Address: So Foules Close 42 High Street
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 13; Page: 5; Line: 12; Roll: CSSCT1851_178

Andrew Scobbie 42
Mary Scobbie 22 [Wife, b. Edin]
Joanna Scobbie 12 [dau, b. Peebles]
Isabella Scobbie 10
Andrew Scobbie 7
Jean Scobbie 5
Violet Forsyth 48 [Lodger]

Interesting that it is the lodger that helps tie it together; Andrew Sr's age is almost the same in both censuses, for example..

Geoff

 

[horse]

In 1881 Janet is described as a coal miner's wife, yet on the passenger list in 1882 Andrew is a gardener. In previous censuses he had been associated with working on the land.

 

[barbarajoh]

That would be quite normal Geoff as when he lived at Eddleston he wasn't near the mines and would work on the land but he had moved to Liberton in 1881 and was near the coal mines. He would be moving to get work of any kind. You get the same with the ag labs moving into towns to work in the mills and maybe found it wasn't for them and moved back out into the country.

Barbara

 

[horse]

Thanks for the explanation, Barbara...

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Barbara.

I'd better start looking for more marriages.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Peebles then Midlothian then back to Peebles.

Dave