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Hi Dave,
Happy New year
I could not find this family in the UK census you asked about so I dug a bit further and found they travelled to Sydney Australia from London on 9th June 1910 on the Otranto under the command of captain Coad.
The passengers included Christine, Doris, Ivy, My? Olive and Percy
so back to you to chase in 1911 i Oz.
dochines
Happy New year
I could not find this family in the UK census you asked about so I dug a bit further and found they travelled to Sydney Australia from London on 9th June 1910 on the Otranto under the command of captain Coad.
The passengers included Christine, Doris, Ivy, My? Olive and Percy
so back to you to chase in 1911 i Oz.
dochines
I can't find a death in NSW for Percy or Christine/Christina/Christiana.
One tree has Percy's death in 1943 in Liverpool, Lancs. I can't find it.
If this is his death in NSW then either age at death is way out or dob 1879 Kent is out or both.
19877/1943 JARRETT PERCY 71 YRS LIVERPOOL LIVERPOOL
One is correct:
Births Mar 1879
Jarrett Percy Brown W. Ashford 2a 740
No Percy Brown JARRETT in NSW Electoral Rolls.
One tree has Percy's death in 1943 in Liverpool, Lancs. I can't find it.
If this is his death in NSW then either age at death is way out or dob 1879 Kent is out or both.
19877/1943 JARRETT PERCY 71 YRS LIVERPOOL LIVERPOOL
One is correct:
Births Mar 1879
Jarrett Percy Brown W. Ashford 2a 740
No Percy Brown JARRETT in NSW Electoral Rolls.
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Got to love trees. :2fun:
One tree has:
Births Sep 1866
Rigden Christiana W. Ashford 2a 579
and another has:
Births Jun 1882
Rigden Christiana Steyning 2b 327
None of the trees have this one:
Births Sep 1858
Rigden Christiana Blean 2a 505
Marriages Sep 1894
Crouch Frederick Westhampnett 2b 681
Ede Frank Westhampnett 2b 681
Rigden Christiana Westhampnett 2b 681
Winter Ellen Westhampnett 2b 681
Marriages Dec 1897
Putwain Adley Blean 2a 1742
RIGDEN Christiana Blean 2a 1742
So did the one born 1866 marry in 1894 and the one born 1882 marry in 1901?
If I had a death for Christiana in NSW before 1982 there might be parents listed. If she died in NSW after 1982 then Ryerson would not list parents.
Can't find a remarriage or a death.
One tree has:
Births Sep 1866
Rigden Christiana W. Ashford 2a 579
and another has:
Births Jun 1882
Rigden Christiana Steyning 2b 327
None of the trees have this one:
Births Sep 1858
Rigden Christiana Blean 2a 505
Marriages Sep 1894
Crouch Frederick Westhampnett 2b 681
Ede Frank Westhampnett 2b 681
Rigden Christiana Westhampnett 2b 681
Winter Ellen Westhampnett 2b 681
Marriages Dec 1897
Putwain Adley Blean 2a 1742
RIGDEN Christiana Blean 2a 1742
So did the one born 1866 marry in 1894 and the one born 1882 marry in 1901?
If I had a death for Christiana in NSW before 1982 there might be parents listed. If she died in NSW after 1982 then Ryerson would not list parents.
Can't find a remarriage or a death.
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Births Jun 1902
Jarrett Ivy Bertha M W.Ashford 2a 886
Births Dec 1903
Jarrett Myrtle Grace L W. Ashford 2a 894
Births Mar 1906
Jarrett Doris Chrissie W. Ashford 2a 943
Births Dec 1909
JARRETT Olive Ethel M W. Ashford 2a 908
No mention of Norah Elizabeth?
Births Jun 1908
Jarrett Norah Elizabeth W. Ashford 2a 936 Error
The expected page range for this district is 973 to 988.
Jarrett Ivy Bertha M W.Ashford 2a 886
Births Dec 1903
Jarrett Myrtle Grace L W. Ashford 2a 894
Births Mar 1906
Jarrett Doris Chrissie W. Ashford 2a 943
Births Dec 1909
JARRETT Olive Ethel M W. Ashford 2a 908
No mention of Norah Elizabeth?
Births Jun 1908
Jarrett Norah Elizabeth W. Ashford 2a 936 Error
The expected page range for this district is 973 to 988.
Hi Dave,
Thanks for all the confusing information I will work my way through it
Meanwhile another supprise for you
The Sydney Morning Herald for Saturday 27th July 1918 page 6 reports the Judicial separation in the case of Jarrett v Jarrett
" A decree of Judicial Separation in the suit of Christina Jarrett formerly Rigden against Percy Brown Jarrett" grounds were desertion
As Percy had deserted his wife, he could have returned to England . Christina could have remarried and that explains why we cannot find them yet. more work to Search for Christina Browns marriage in Australia
Back in the UK the Ancestry tree owned by Pattisalt seems the most reliable and well sourced. she has his death in 1943 liverpool but does not have a source It is recent enough to have been a known fact, Could be worth being in contact with her as she otherwise has correct data for his marriage in 1901
an interesting challenge thank you
dochines
Thanks for all the confusing information I will work my way through it
Meanwhile another supprise for you
The Sydney Morning Herald for Saturday 27th July 1918 page 6 reports the Judicial separation in the case of Jarrett v Jarrett
" A decree of Judicial Separation in the suit of Christina Jarrett formerly Rigden against Percy Brown Jarrett" grounds were desertion
As Percy had deserted his wife, he could have returned to England . Christina could have remarried and that explains why we cannot find them yet. more work to Search for Christina Browns marriage in Australia
Back in the UK the Ancestry tree owned by Pattisalt seems the most reliable and well sourced. she has his death in 1943 liverpool but does not have a source It is recent enough to have been a known fact, Could be worth being in contact with her as she otherwise has correct data for his marriage in 1901
an interesting challenge thank you
dochines
Hi Dave,
have you had any sleep in last 24hrs?
Having sifted through the material we have so far this I think is the position regarding Percy Brown Jarrett.
Parents; Horace Jarrett and Bertha May Brown 1858-1913 were married in 1875 Elham Kent (BMD)
Census 1881 Elham Kent RG11 P1010 F47 p10 92 St Johns St. Folkestone
Horace Jarrett aged 23 a grocer born Maidstone Kent ( born abt 1858)
Bertha M Jarrett aged 23 his wife born chart Sutton Kent
Percy Brown Jarrett son aged 2 born Ashford Kent
Also on the same page is a Rigden family at 98 St John St . (The properties in between them were unoccupied)
John Rigden head 42 Carpenter born Lyminge Kent
Hannah Rigden wife 36 born Paddlesworth Kent
Jane Rigden aged 13 scholar born Folkestone Kent
Thomas Rigden aged 4 Scholar born Folkestone
Census 1891 2 Pavilion rd Folkestone
Percy B Jarrett, now 12, is with his parents Horace and Bertha. Father still a grocer
Also in 1891 John Rigden is now a widower, still a carpenter, living with son Thomas aged 14. at 47 Black Bull rd Folkestone RG12 P750 F73 p65
Census 1901 Percy B Jarrett is now aged 22 single, a journeyman baker born Folkestone living as a servant in the home of Thomas Wallis a Baker at 1 Hempsted St Ashford RG13 P782 F114 p1
Percy Brown Jarrett and Christiana Rigden are married at West Ashford in 1901 (BMD and Pattisalt tree on Ancestry)
Percy B and Christiana have several children in the next few years including Nora Elizabeth Jarrett in 1908 (BMD)
Percy B and his family depart from London for Australia on board the Otranto on 9th June 1910
The next possible reference I find for Percy B Jarrett is in the Sydney Sands directory for 1913 living at 8 Davies St Sydney
The next reference is in the Sydney Morning Herald for Saturday 23 July 1918 on p9. When his wife obtains a judicial separation on the grounds of his desertion
You may be able to apply to get the transcripts of the court case. Well worth a try.
It is purely speculation as to why he deserted his wife. Did he go off with someone? not come back from the war ( I can not find any record yet no death on CWGC site) If he came back to England there is no record on the incoming passenger list records for the UK
I can find no close matching death date for Percy in England or Australia
He could have changed his name perhaps using Brown as a surname would be the obvious thing to do
Do you want me to try and trace Christiana in the same way
best wishes
dochines
have you had any sleep in last 24hrs?
Having sifted through the material we have so far this I think is the position regarding Percy Brown Jarrett.
Parents; Horace Jarrett and Bertha May Brown 1858-1913 were married in 1875 Elham Kent (BMD)
Census 1881 Elham Kent RG11 P1010 F47 p10 92 St Johns St. Folkestone
Horace Jarrett aged 23 a grocer born Maidstone Kent ( born abt 1858)
Bertha M Jarrett aged 23 his wife born chart Sutton Kent
Percy Brown Jarrett son aged 2 born Ashford Kent
Also on the same page is a Rigden family at 98 St John St . (The properties in between them were unoccupied)
John Rigden head 42 Carpenter born Lyminge Kent
Hannah Rigden wife 36 born Paddlesworth Kent
Jane Rigden aged 13 scholar born Folkestone Kent
Thomas Rigden aged 4 Scholar born Folkestone
Census 1891 2 Pavilion rd Folkestone
Percy B Jarrett, now 12, is with his parents Horace and Bertha. Father still a grocer
Also in 1891 John Rigden is now a widower, still a carpenter, living with son Thomas aged 14. at 47 Black Bull rd Folkestone RG12 P750 F73 p65
Census 1901 Percy B Jarrett is now aged 22 single, a journeyman baker born Folkestone living as a servant in the home of Thomas Wallis a Baker at 1 Hempsted St Ashford RG13 P782 F114 p1
Percy Brown Jarrett and Christiana Rigden are married at West Ashford in 1901 (BMD and Pattisalt tree on Ancestry)
Percy B and Christiana have several children in the next few years including Nora Elizabeth Jarrett in 1908 (BMD)
Percy B and his family depart from London for Australia on board the Otranto on 9th June 1910
The next possible reference I find for Percy B Jarrett is in the Sydney Sands directory for 1913 living at 8 Davies St Sydney
The next reference is in the Sydney Morning Herald for Saturday 23 July 1918 on p9. When his wife obtains a judicial separation on the grounds of his desertion
You may be able to apply to get the transcripts of the court case. Well worth a try.
It is purely speculation as to why he deserted his wife. Did he go off with someone? not come back from the war ( I can not find any record yet no death on CWGC site) If he came back to England there is no record on the incoming passenger list records for the UK
I can find no close matching death date for Percy in England or Australia
He could have changed his name perhaps using Brown as a surname would be the obvious thing to do
Do you want me to try and trace Christiana in the same way
best wishes
dochines
Hello dochines,
Thank you very much.
Yes, I sleep between 11 pm and 6 am.
This is curious:
Divorce Number Year Surname FirstName Respondent Surname Respondent FirstName Co-Respondent Surname Co-Respondent FirstName Remarks
0306 1916 JARRETT Christiana JARRETT Percy Brown - - -
TROVE is down this morning.
I can't find anything on the one who died in Liverpool, NSW in 1943 to rule it in or out. Being 1943 I also looked on CWGC site.
His name is not on the list of those who served using an alias - HERE
Re a possible change of name I searched for Percy Brown with no family name and:
Percy Brown Jarett 1943 New South Wales East Sydney
That seems to be the only entry. No sign in 1930 or 1933 or 1936 or 1949 and later.
Yes, please trace Christiana.
Thanks.
Dave
Thank you very much.
Yes, I sleep between 11 pm and 6 am.
This is curious:
Divorce Number Year Surname FirstName Respondent Surname Respondent FirstName Co-Respondent Surname Co-Respondent FirstName Remarks
0306 1916 JARRETT Christiana JARRETT Percy Brown - - -
TROVE is down this morning.
I can't find anything on the one who died in Liverpool, NSW in 1943 to rule it in or out. Being 1943 I also looked on CWGC site.
His name is not on the list of those who served using an alias - HERE
Re a possible change of name I searched for Percy Brown with no family name and:
Percy Brown Jarett 1943 New South Wales East Sydney
That seems to be the only entry. No sign in 1930 or 1933 or 1936 or 1949 and later.
Yes, please trace Christiana.
Thanks.
Dave
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