JASPER family

[DaveHam9]

1891
Civil Parish: Kidderminster
EP: St John Baptist
County: Worcestershire
Registration District: Kidderminster
Sub-RD: Kidderminster
ED: 22
Address: Hemming St.
Wm Jasper 63 Gardener Kidderminster
Emma Jasper 58
Sidney Jasper 25 Bricklayers Lab
Edwd H Jasper 13
Sarah A Jasper 21
Elsie Jones 1 Grandaughter
Sam'l Bradford Lodger 48 Gardener
Ellen Crook Lodger 29
Wm Curtis Lodger 16

1901
Civil Parish: Kidderminster Foreign
Ecclesiastical parish: Kidderminster St John
County: Worcestershire
Registration District: Kidderminster
Sub-RD: Kidderminster
ED: 21
Household schedule number: 261
William Jasper Head 74 Kidderminster
Emma Jasper Wife 70
E H Jasper Grandson 23
Percy Wilson 3


I'd like the census ref for those two please.

Dave

 

[horse]

1891 - Worcestershire
Ref: Piece: 2316; Folio: 113; Page: 36

1901 - Worcestershire
Ref: Piece: 2768; Folio: 25; Page: 41

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

1881
RG11 Piece 434 Folio 64 Page 27
County: Middlesex
Adress: 3 Lt Pearl St
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Occupation Birthplace Disability
Daniel MOYNIHAN Head M M 61 Shoe Maker & Army Pensioner Ireland
Mary MOYNIHAN Wife M F 40 Ireland
Daniel MOYNIHAN Son U M 19 Gen Lab Aldershot, Hampshire
Wiliam MOYNIHAN Son U M 16 Gen Lab Ireland
Mary J. MOYNIHAN Dau F 14 Gibraltar
George MOYNIHAN Son M 10 Scholar Scotland
Ellen MOYNIHAN Dau F 6 Scholar Spitalfields, Middlesex
Eliza MOYNIHAN Dau F 2 Spitalfields, Middlesex


I'd like the parish and RD for that one please.


1891
RG12 Piece 273 Folio 55 Page 50
Civil Parish: Christchurch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephens
Town: Spitalfields
County: London
Address: 3 Little Pearl St
MOYNIHAN Daniel Head 65 Shoemaker Cork, Ireland
MOYNIHAN Mary Wife 55 Cork, Ireland
MOYNIHAN Ellen dau 16 Tailoress Spitalfields, London
MOYNIHAN Lacie dau 12 Scholar Spitalfields, London

Deaths Jun 1891
Moynihan Daniel 57 Whitechapel 1c 240
Moynihan Mary 49 Whitechapel 1c 239

I'd like a check for probate and burial for Daniel and Mary.

Ages all over the place for those two. Don't have a birth/baptism record for either yet.
Daniel baptised at St Mary's Shandon, Cork in the 1820's so age 57 is about 10 years short.


Any sign of Daniel junior's brothers William John and George Arthur in 1891 or 1901?

Don't have arrival for George. Don't know if William left England.

Toowong Cemetery
Moynihan George Arthur 13 / 12 / 1896 Unknown

 

[horse]

1881 - Middlsex
CP: Spitalfields. RD: Whitechapel

Daniel Moynihan
Record Type: Death
Estimated Death Date: 1891
Parish: Stepney White Chapel
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Register
[Image has his age as 50y]

Mary Moynihan
Record Type: Death
Estimated Death Date: 1891
Parish: Stepney White Chapel
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Register
[Image has her age as 51y]

No probate seen for either

I'll check the other info separately, Dave..

Geoff

 

[gibbo]

Toowong Cemetery
Moynihan George Arthur 13 / 12 / 1896 Unknown

QLD birth
1896 B59102 George Arthur Moynihan Ellen Moynihan

QLD death
1896 B29321 George Arthur Moynihan - Ellen Moynihan ** born Queensland aged 3 months

 

[horse]

George Arthur Moynihan
Birth Date: 5 Oct 1870
Birth Place: Calton,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland
Father: Daniel Moynihan
Mother: Mary Flinn
FHL Film Number: 6035516

William Jno Monaghan
Age: 24
Birth Year: abt 1867
Place of Origin: County Fermanagh, Ireland
Ship Name: Merkara
Port of Departure: London, England
Port of Arrival: Brisbane
Arrival Date: 23 Nov 1891

No Image yet..

Geoff

 

[gibbo]

QLD death index

1901 B1544 Elizabeth Moynihan Daniel Moynihan Mary Flynn

1893 C2647 Daniel Francis Moynihan Daniel Frances Moynihan Mary Flynn

Toowong Cemetery
Moynihan Elizabeth 30 / 07 / 1901 age Unknown

 

[horse]

Daniel F Moynihan
Age: 31
Birth Year: abt 1861
Ship Name: Tara
Port of Departure: London, England
Port of Arrival: Brisbane
Arrival Date: 30 Mar 1892

Geoff

 

[horse]

Daniel F Moynihan
Age: 31
Birth Year: abt 1861
Ship Name: Tara
Port of Departure: London, England
Port of Arrival: Brisbane
Arrival Date: 30 Mar 1892

Geoff

Image has him with:
Julia 33, Clara 2, David or Daniel inf., Also Ellen 16, Lizzie 13. An Alf Wm Jasper 40 has been crossed out.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Thanks gibbo.

Lots of problems with this family. Some details given to me have proved to be wrong.

Extracted record:
William John b. 24 Feb 1865 0884, Donnybrook, Dublin, Ireland
Daniel MOYNIHAN & Mary FLYNN


Are the 1891 deaths the right ones for Daniel & Mary?


If William's middle name is John who is William Humphry?

Death 1907/B08827 Moynihan Alexander Humphrey - William Humphrey Moynihan - Emma Mary Henderson

Did sister Mary Jane stay in England?

Did brother George stay in England?


Re Daniel Francis Moynihan's inquest - stated death by accidently drowning in the Coomera River.
At the end of this inquest it states: He has left a widow and three children, has two sisters in Brisbane and a brother who has left for England on the S.S. Tara.

Which brother left for England? William or George?

 

[horse]

Sisters Ellen and Elizabeth both arrived - when ?

1892 (Post #9)

 

[DaveHam9]

William John
William Humphreys
William Albert

William John must be the one aged 5 in 1871. Arrived in 1891 and died ?

 

[horse]

1871 - Scotland

RD: Calton
Civil Parish: Glasgow Calton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 11 Union Lane
ED: 58; Page: 12; Line: 16; Roll: CSSCT1871_131

Daniel Maynchan [Daniel Moynihan] submitted by 2 users] 45 [b. Ireland. Labourer (boat -yard)]
Mary Maynchan 30 wife [do]
Daniel Maynchan 9 [b. England]
William Maynchan 5 [b. Ireland]
Mary Jane Maynchan 4 [b. Spain]
George Maynchan 6 Mo [b. Glasgow]

Quite a cosmopolitan lot, Dave.. :biggrin:

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Four generations of Daniel and two in the army.

Did Ellen marry? When did she die?

When and where did William and George die?

If George never left England then it was William who left Australia on 'Tara' for England.

 

[horse]

Did brother George stay in England?

I can't see an arrival for George, unless he went with William John, I can't get hold of a passenger list for the Merkara in 1891

Geoff

 

[horse]

If George never left England then it was William who left Australia on 'Tara' for England.

Yep, but see post #15

 

[horse]

Alexander Moynihan
Birth Date: 26 Feb 1869
Birth Place: Calton,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland
Father: Daniel Moynihan
Mother: Mary Flinn
FHL Film Number: 6035516

Geoff

 

[horse]

William was on the Merkara not Tara..

 

[DaveHam9]

I'd say it's not the arrival of William so that leaves open the question of which of the two William or George did arrive on ? and then leave on the 'Tara' after the death of brother Daniel 6 Mar 1893.

MONAGHAN Joseph 22 Merkara 23 Nov 1891 306 18486 Z1965 M1704
MONAGHAN William Jno 24 Merkara 23 Nov 1891 306 18486 Z1965 M1704

Both from Fermanagh which does not fit.

One researcher says it was George who spent a short time in Queensland.

Still searching for a death for Ellen.

 

[DaveHam9]

Death 1952/B38760 Ellen Brewster - Daniel Francis - Mary Flynn