Jesse Hoare SMITH

[DaveHam9]

Marriages Sep 1846
Smith Jesse Hoare Marylebone 1 201
Whitehead Mary Ann Marylebone 1 201

Jesse Hoare Smith
Age: 25
Spouse: Mary Ann Whitchead
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 Jul 1846
Parish: Langham
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Joseph Smith
Spouse Father: James Whitchead
Register Type: Parish Register
[Occ: Surveyor. Father Joseph Occ: baker]

Death of Mary Ann ?

Marriages Dec 1851 ** Image not found 11/01/14 **
Smith Jesse Hoare Islington 3 300
Thornton Sarah Ann Islington 3 300

J H Smith
Arrival Date: 12 Nov 1852
Arrival Port: Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: Liverpool
Ship: Great Britain

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) - Wednesday 5 January 1853 p.2
Missing Friends
MR and MRS JESSE HOARE SMITH, of London, beg to inform their friends they have arrived at Geelong, and that letters addressed there will reach them. December 24.

I'd like a look up please for Jesse in 1851.

Thanks,

Dave

My turn to cook tonight so I'll be back later.

 

[horse]

Good luck with the stir fry :biggrin:

 

[DaveHam9]

Good luck with the stir fry :biggrin:

Yes, it is Saturday.

 

[horse]

Mary ann is not with Jesse in 1851, looks like he is a widower, the image is not good...

Civil Parish: Limehouse
County: Middlesex
RD: Stepney
Sub-RD: Limehouse
ED: 17

Jessie H Smith 30 [b. Limehouse. Some sort of clerk]
Mary F Smith 3 dau [b. St Mary's Paddington]
Celina R Smith 34 sis [b. Bedford, Kent]
Frances H Smith 9 niece [b. Scotland]
Janes Smith 5 male [do]
Celia Smith 1 female [do]
Margaret Smith 20 servant [do]

Geoff

 

[horse]

Difficult to determine Mary Ann's death, Q1 1850 looks likely... there is a burial Jan 1850, address = North st, but the 1851 census for Jesse doesn't help

Geoff

 

[horse]

Difficult to determine Mary Ann's death, Q1 1850 looks likely... there is a burial Jan 1850, address = North st, but the 1851 census for Jesse doesn't help

Geoff

Oh! Could be her, aged 31y.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Don't know if they arrived with children or not.

Thought there might be a few Mary Ann SMITHs.

Deaths
1882/B15275 Smith Jesse Hoare - Joseph Smith - Frances Hoard
1912/C04563 Smith Sarah Anne - Edward Thornton - Ann Mounstephen

Toowong Cemetery
Portion 18 Section 4 Grave 21
Smith Jesse Hoare 25 / 12 / 1882 61 years
Hodghton Elizabeth 10 / 06 / 1927 43 years

Don't know if that's a married daughter.

 

[DaveHam9]

Joseph Smith & Frances Hoard
2 July 1803 Saint Margaret Lee, Kent
Batch: M016502

 

[horse]

There is this marriage if he married a Sarah before leaving UK..

Name: Sarah Ann Thornton
Q4 1851
RD: Islington
Vo: 3
Page: 300
Name
Eliza Ainsworth
Alfred Cromack
Ann Parks
Jesse Hoare Smith
Abraham Stott
Sarah Ann Thornton

 

[horse]

We have a tree...

There is this, but image is bad, I think there is Hoare somewhere in there

Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923
J H Smith
Arrival Date: 12 Nov 1852
Arrival Port: Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: Liverpool
Ship: Great Britain

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, he married before leaving but so far just have his arrival.

 

[DaveHam9]

The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864 - 1933) - Monday 30 September 1912 p.6
DEATHS
SMITH.-On the 27th September, 1912, at her residence, "The Bluff" Spring Bluff, Sarah Anne Smith, aged 82 years.


I can't find a burial for Sarah. I'd better look outside Brisbane.

Spring Bluff is a locality north of Toowoomba, Queensland. It is situated 15 kilometres north of the city centre via New England Highway, and is adjacent to the town of Highfields. The area is named after a railway station in the area.

 

[DaveHam9]

Last name Smith
First name(s) Sarah
Maiden name
Gender Female
Religion Methodist
Date of birth 0000-00-00
Date of death 1912-09-27
Date of burial 1912-09-29
Age at death 82
Cemetery Drayton & Toowoomba Cemetery
Internment number METH2-003-0001

 

[horse]

Sleep time. Speak later, Dave..

 

[DaveHam9]

Ok, thanks Geoff.


Depending on the weather gardening tomorrow morning.

Dave

 

[PeterH]

Hi Guys

I have just found this site. I live in Brisbane and my wife is a Smith and a direct descendant of Jesse Hoare.

I have all the information re this family on Ancestry. I am just adding further news paper articles from Trove re Jesse's time in Clunes, Victoria.

He arrived in Melbourne with Sarah Ann Thornton on the Great Britain, Dec 1852. Listed as JH Smith. They were accompanied by daughter Mary Francis from Jesse's first marriage to Mary Ann Whitehead.

They were shopkeepers in Geelong and then in 1856 at Magpie, Ballarat, Vic.

In 1859 Jesse is listed as a store keeper at Clunes, Vic. This is from daughter Kate's birth cert.

Jesse became town clerk and surveyor. He had a falling out with council in 1868 when he was not given these paid positions after his yearly reapplication. He was picked up and placed outside the council chambers by the mayor whom he sued for assault and loss of wages.

Jesse lost this case heard at Clunes. He had asked for £40 for the assault but was offered a shilling. He took the case to Melbourne and again lost with costs awarded against him. I believe this is around the time he became a shareholder in The Oriental Gold Mining Co.

He left Vic for Brisbane in about 1873. He lived in Spring Hill and died in 1882. His is a paupers grave at Toowong and the other person listed is not a relative and I presume was buried later

Sarah and her daughters moved to Toowoomba and ran a guest house at Spring Bluff.

Son William Henry became a baker at Woodford, north of Brisbane. His son, Forbes Strachan Smith fought and was wounded in WW1. His son is my wife's father.

I have photos of Jesse at a mine site on my Ancestry tree

I will soon post the newspaper articles that I have just discovered.

Regards

Peter

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Peter and welcome to the Forum


Thanks for all the details. I'll add it all to my tree. I'm not a descendant. I have a remote connection via NOBLE family.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriages Dec Qtr 1851 - Islington 3 300
SMITH Jesse Hoare
THORNTON Sarah Ann

Any image for that one thanks.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

And this one thanks.

Marriages Sep Qtr 1846 - Marylebone 1 201
SMITH Jesse Hoare & WHITEHEAD Mary Ann

Jesse born abt 1821 and not found yet in 1841.

1851
HO107 Piece 1554 Folio 463 Page 3
Civil Parish: Limehouse
County: Middlesex
Registration District: Stepney
Sub-RD: Limehouse
ED: 17
No of Schedule: 8
Address:
Jessie H Smith Head Widower 31 Auctioneers Clerk Limehouse Middlesex
Mary F Smith Dau 3 St Mary's Paddington Middlesex
Celina R Smith Sister Widow 34 Bedford Kent
Frances H ? Smith Niece 9 Scholar Scotland
Page 4
Janes Smith 5 Scotland
Celia Smith 1 Scotland
Margaret Smith Servt. 20 Scotland


Dave

 

[horse]

There is an image for the 1846 marriage, Dave..

Copy sent..

Geoff