Johanna Dunstan DOWN

[DaveHam9]

Marriages Dec Qtr 1860
Nancarrow Edward Liskeard 5c 137
Down Johanna Dunston Liskeard 5c 137

1881
RG11 Piece 2203 Folio 41 Page 77
Civil Parish: East Stonehouse
County: Devon
Registration District: East Stonehouse
Sub-RD: East Stonehouse
ED:
Address: 45 Edgecumbe St
[As transcribed (looks like Joanna) and Elizabeth is Emma on the image]
Jemina Nancarrow Wife Mar 44 Dressmaker Callington Cornwall
Emma Dau 11 Scholar Gunnislake Cornwall

Deaths Jun 1890
Nancarrow Joanna 52 Newton A. 5b 112


Sibling ?

County Cornwall
Place Callington
Church name The Blessed Virgin Mary
Register type
Baptism date 22 Jan 1837
Person forename Eliza
Person *** F
Father forename John
Father surname DOWN
Father occupation Mason
Mother forename Nancy

Looking for the date of the 1860 marriage.

Looking for baptism for Johanna.

Looking for Johanna and parents in 1841 & 1851.

Did John DOWN remarry?

Looking for Edward and Johanna in 1861 and 1871.

Looking for deaths of Johanna's parents.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

1861

Civil parish St. Ive
RD Liskeatd
Sub RD Callington

Edward Nancarrow head age 23 occ copper miner born Illogan
Joanna wife age 24 born Callington

Class RG9
Piece 1526
Folio 106
Page. 51

 

[juliejtp]

1871

Civil parish Calstock
RD Tavistock
Sub RD Tavistock
Town Gunnislake

Edward Nancarrow head age 34 occ miner born Redruth
Joanna wife age 35 born Callington
Elizabeth Emma dau age 1 born Calstock

Class RG10
Piece 2145
Folio 128
Page 38

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Julie.

Picking up on the one you helped me with ages ago.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Death - 16 Sep 1894 Salt Lake City Utah
Edward Nancarrow
Birth date 1838
Birthplace England
Occ miner
Widowed
Father birthplace English

 

[DaveHam9]

Name Elizabeth E Nancarrow
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
County Devon
Parish Devonport
Ecclesiastical Parish ST MARK
Registration District Stoke Damerel
Residence Note Alcester Street
Gender Female
Age 21
Marital Status Single
Occupation Dressmaker
Relationship to Head of Household Niece
Birth Year (Estimated) 1870
Birthplace Cornwall, England
Page Number 48
Registration Number RG12
Piece/Folio 1747/ 120

John Down Head M 37 Cornwall
Jane A Down Wife F 32 Cornwall
John H Down Son M 7M Devonshire
Elizabeth E Nancarrow Niece F 21 Cornwall

That's not Johanna's father. Must be a brother. That does not fit either.

Johanna/Joanna/Joannah born abt 1837. I can't find her in 1841 or 1851.

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriages Dec Qtr 1889
CLEMENTS Jane Ann Stoke D. 5b 716
DOWN John Stoke D. 5b 716

 

[Ladybird1300]

Hi Dave

Found a birth:

Name: James Dunstan Down
Registration Year: 1842
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Liskeard
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Cornwall
Volume: 9
Page: 164

Could this be a brother??

Amanda

 

[juliejtp]

Dave,

I'll come back to this one. Wondering if Johanna's name was shortened to Ann/Annie in 41/51.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

A family tree has Johanna's father as Thomas Down born 1813 Callington died 1879 Tavistock. Mother Johanna Dunstone born about 1816 Callington died 1887 Plymouth.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

The 1841 census has this Thomas and Johanna Down.

Civil parish Callington
RD Liskeard
Sub RD Callungton

Thomas Down age 28 occ stone mason born in county
Joanna Down age 40 born in county
Elizabeth Down age 19 moths born in county

Listed below is:-

Joanna Dunstone age 60 born in county
Susan Down age 4 born in county


There's no Joanna with parents. So who is Susan? Is she young Joanna?.

Class HO107
Poe e 133
Book 1
Folio 12
Page 17

 

[juliejtp]

Thomas and family in 1851

Civil parish Callington
RD Liskeard
Sub RD Callington

Thomas Down age 33.occ stone mason born Codyton (Coryton) Devon
Joanna wife age 34 born Callington
Elizabeth dau age 11 born Callington
Emma dau age 7 born Callington
Thomas son age 1 born Callington

Class HO107
Piece 1901
Folio 184
Page 31

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

The family tree with Thomas Down and Johanna Dunstan have son John marrying Jane Ann Clements.

 

[horse]

Deaths Q3 1843
DOWN James Dunstan
Liskeard
9 100

Geoff

 

[horse]

Hi Dave,

A family tree has Johanna's father as Thomas Down born 1813 Callington died 1879 Tavistock. Mother Johanna Dunstone born about 1816 Callington died 1887 Plymouth.

Not easy to follow after 1861..

Not sure if that tree has Thomas' death right [not checked Johanna yet].. This looks like the probate for for the 1879 death, it suggests wife = Ann

Also this from Find a Grave
Birth: 1815
Death: 1879
Cornwall, England

Family links:
Spouse:
Anne Down (1815 - 1890)*
*Calculated relationship

Burial:
St Andrew Churchyard
Calstock
Cornwall Unitary Authority
Cornwall, England

May be useful to find Thomas and Joanna in 1871.

 

[horse]

Another tree has Johanna's parents as Ajems Dunston b. 1807 and Ann b. 1811..

Geoff

EDIT: probably a misspell Ajems = James?

 

[horse]

Another tree has Johanna's parents as Ajems Dunston b. 1807 and Ann b. 1811..

Geoff

EDIT: probably a misspell Ajems = James?

This would probably rule out James and Ann as parents..

Joanna Philips Dunstan
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 11 Dec 1836
Baptism Place: St Gluvias,Cornwall,England
Father: James Dunstan
Mother: Ann
FHL Film Number: 254163

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Hi Dave

Found a birth:

Name: James Dunstan Down
Registration Year: 1842
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Liskeard
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Cornwall
Volume: 9
Page: 164

Could this be a brother??

Amanda

Thanks Amanda.

Yes, looks like a brother. One was missing from the earlier post:

Marriages Dec Qtr 1860
Nancarrow Edward Liskeard 5c 137
Down Johanna Demstone Liskeard 5c 137
Down Johanna Dunston Liskeard 5c 137

 

[DaveHam9]

Hi Dave,

The 1841 census has this Thomas and Johanna Down.

Civil parish Callington
RD Liskeard
Sub RD Callungton

Thomas Down age 28 occ stone mason born in county
Joanna Down age 40 born in county
Elizabeth Down age 19 moths born in county

Listed below is:-

Joanna Dunstone age 60 born in county
Susan Down age 4 born in county


There's no Joanna with parents. So who is Susan? Is she young Joanna?.

Class HO107
Poe e 133
Book 1
Folio 12
Page 17

Thanks Julie.

I had come to the conclusion her father was a stone mason and that she had to be in the census under a different name - Ann or Nancy or ... but didn't think it would be Susan.


So this one is ruled out as a sibling:

County Cornwall
Place Callington
Church name The Blessed Virgin Mary
Register type
Baptism date 22 Jan 1837
Person forename Eliza
Person *** F
Father forename John
Father surname DOWN
Father occupation Mason
Mother forename Nancy


Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

So John born abt 1854 is a brother. That's a lot of children.

Still some things to sort out and gaps to fill.

Births Jun Qtr 1853
DOWN John Dunstan Liskeard 5c 60

Dave