Johanna SAILER

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Birth 1865/B03529 Sailer Johanna Maria - Friedrich - Christiana Frederica Kraft

Looking for a marriage and a death for Johanna. I've looked assuming the names are reversed and can't find either in Qld.

Regards,

Dave

 

[gibbo]

Hi Dave,

Looks like the parents split up

The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864 - 1933)(about)
Tuesday 30 August 1881

In the adjourned summons case of Christiana Sailer v. Frederick
sailer, for maintenance.


Still trying to find Johanna's marriage and death.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864-1933) - Wednesday 24 December 1884 p.1
FUNERAL NOTICE.-The Friends of Mr. FREDERICK SAILER, deceased, are respectfully invited to attend his Funeral, to move from his late residence, Rocky Waterholes, THIS (Wednesday) AFTERNOON, at 2 o'clock, to the South Brisbane Cemetery.
JNO. SMITH, Undertaker, George-street.

There is no burial on BCC site for 1884.

Checking if they are both in South Brisbane Cemetery.

South Brisbane Cemetery
Portion 3B Grave 114
Sailer Christina 13 / 08 / 1903 77 years

 

[gibbo]

Johanna just disappears

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, seems so.

I have about 100 like that in my tree.

Ok, here is another:

1936 QLD Electoral Roll - Moreton - Boonah
FRANZ Karl August, Portion 96, Roadvale, farmer
FRANZ Matilda, Portion 96, Roadvale, home duties

Death 16 May 1957/C03249 Franz Matilda - Fredrick Conrad Sailer - Wilhelmine Schmald

Death 14 Jul 1948/C02953 Franz Carl August - August - Johanna Caroline Schneider

So far I can't find where they both died or where they are buried.

 

[gibbo]

Got them Dave. There in the St Lukes Lutheran Cemetery

If you scroll down the link a little you will come to them. Click on the camera picture beside their names and there is a photo of their headstones.

http://www.australiancemeteries.com/qld/boonah/stlukedata.htm

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

You beat me to it.

I was working my way through the Lutheran cemeteries at Kalbar St Mark's, St John's ... St Luke's.

 

[gibbo]

Oh you did it the hard way. I just googled his name :2fun::2fun:

 

[DaveHam9]

Son there as well and probably his wife too.

Birth 1909/C03829 Franz August Friedrich - Karl August - Mathelda Sailer

FRANZ August F. d: 6 May 1976 aged 66

FRANZ Louisa H. d: 1 Mar 1949 aged 39

 

[gibbo]

Marriage
1931/C2149 Franz August Friedrich Haug Louisa Hilda

 

[DaveHam9]

Death 1949/C0414 Franz Louise Holda - Friedrich Ernst Haug - Maria Elizabeth Wilken

It's not Hilda unless we have the same error twice:

1910/C03944 Haug Louise Holda - Friedrich Ernst - Maria Elizabeth Wilkess

 

[gibbo]

So where to now?

 

[DaveHam9]

Several are at Bethania Lutherian so I have those already.

Trying to find this marriage in TROVE but no luck so far.

Found it. :2fun:

Naffke—Sailer.

21 Apr 1909/B07555 Noffke Alfred Carl - Sailer Pauline

They are both in Bethania.

 

[DaveHam9]

Roy probably born after 1919:

1943 QLD Electoral Roll - Moreton - Goodna
SAILER Roy, 6 Barker st., Warwick rd., Ipswich, fettler

1963 McPherson

After that I have nothing.

Ah:

Service Record
Name SAILER, ROY
Service Australian Army
Service Number Q108259
Date of Birth 8 Nov 1920
Place of Birth BOONAH, QLD
Date of Enlistment 22 Sep 1941
Locality on Enlistment IPSWICH, QLD
Place of Enlistment IPSWICH, QLD
Next of Kin SAILER, WILHELM
Date of Discharge 26 Jan 1942
Rank Private
Posting at Discharge 61 Battalion
WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
Prisoner of War No

 

[DaveHam9]

Born in Boonah, Aus, Queensland, Australia on 8 Nov 1920 to William Sailer and Ida Augustus Maack. Roy married Myrtle Edyvean and had 7

Ha. The name is HAACK.

Father: Roy Sailer
Birth/Chris: ... 1920 at ...
Death/Burial: ... 1975 at ...

Mother: Myrtle Edyvean
Birth/Chris: ... 1926 at ...
Death/Burial: ... 2001 at ...

Married: ... 1948 at ...

 

[DaveHam9]

While searching for the 1848 marriage I found this and it throws up a puzzle:

The Courier-Mail (Brisbane, Qld. : 1933 - 1954) - Saturday 21 February 1948 p.8
DEATHS
SAILER.-At Cremorne, Sydney, on 19th Feb., 1948, Jean Alexander Sailer, beloved Wife of Arthur John Sailer & Sister-in-law of Mrs. Angus Macpheron, Mrs. Alex Macpherson, Mr. A. E. Rogers, Mrs. A. Annandale, & Mr. J. P. Rogers.


Arthur's sisters Edith and Florence married Angus and Alex so that is simple.

Arthur's mother Janet nee BEARD remarried to a John (no middle name) ROGERS:

5 Feb 1902/B01605 Rogers John - Sailer Janet

So, at the moment I have no idea who the other three in-laws are.

John must have married previously and had at least 2 sons and a daughter.

Marriage 1926/B39407 Annandale Alexander John - Rogers Constance Janet

 

[DaveHam9]

There is another possibility. :2fun: :2fun:

Births
1902/C10030 Rogers Albert Edwin - John - Janet Beard

1904/C10118 Rogers Constance Janet - John - Janet Beard

1907/C09849 Rogers John Pearce - John - Janet Beard

Now the hard bit.

A death for John senior.

 

[DaveHam9]

Oh. Rodgers.

South Brisbane Cemetery
Sailer Frederick Edward 14 / 01 / 1890 20 months
Rogers John 17 / 08 / 1909 49 years
Sailer John C 28 / 03 / 1900 45 years
Rodgers Janet 27 / 05 / 1946 81 years


Death 15 Aug 1909/B11377 Rogers John - John - Julia

Not this one so I'm guessing John was born in England.

Birth 1860/B0280 Rogers John Henry - John - Elizabeth Smithern

 

[DaveHam9]

Births in NSW but none earlier and no marriage in NSW:

19897/1875 ROGERS WILLIAM HENRY JOHN JULIA HILL END
19898/1875 ROGERS JULIA A JOHN JULIA HILL END
20811/1877 ROGERS MAUD E JOHN JULIA HILL END
23478/1879 ROGERS FREDERICK CHARLES JOHN JULIA HILL END


Possibly a brother:

Death 1949/B21165 Rogers Richard Pearce - John - Julia


Not this one - HERE

 

[gibbo]

Guess you want a passenger list for John Rogers? :biggrin:

Twins amongst the births to.