Johanna SAILER

[DaveHam9]

I'm not sure that's the same family.

If it is then John and probably others were born in England 1860-1875. So an arrival just before 1875.

Such a common name in Cornwall.

 

[gibbo]

His death notices dont give anything up neither

The Brisbane Courier (Qld. : 1864 - 1933)
Monday 16 August 190

TÍMJNFRAL KOTICE -The Friends of Mrs JOHN ROGERS are respectfully inilted to attend the 1 uncral of I cr deceased Husband, John, to moie from his late residence Merton street South Brisbane TO MORROW (Tuewla}) AFTERNOON, at 4 o clocl for the South Bnsbane Cemctcr}

ALI X GOW (late Sillett A, Barrett)

Undertaker A.c Petrie Bight

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ARTHUR JOHN and Miss FLORRIE SAILER and Mr and Mis A MACPHERSON arc respectfully inilted to attend the funeral of their deceased Step fatl er Mr John Rogers to move from 1 is late resi lence Merton street bouth Brisbane IO MORROW (Tuesday) AFlfcR NOON, at 4 o clock, for the South Brisbane

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

Possible death:

19152/1930 ROGERS JULIA (86 YRS MENTAL HOSP RYDA - RYDE

RYDA=Rydalmere

Most likely marriage as others are too early if that is the right death for Julia.

Marriages Jun 1856
MARTIN James Redruth 5c 417
PHILLIPS Julia Redruth 5c 417
ROBERTS Martha Redruth 5c 417
ROGERS John Redruth 5c 417

Better match the couples first. No luck so far in FS.


Possible but there are others:

Births Mar 1861
Rogers John Redruth 5c 305

 

[DaveHam9]

Headstone - HERE

 

[gibbo]

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)(about)
Tuesday 18 November 1930

ROGERS.-November 16, 1930, Julia Rogers. widow of the late John Rogers, of Bathurst, and dearly-loved mother of Albert Rogers, and grand- mother of Jack Mansell and Cecil and Winifred Newman, In her 87th year.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

At least name of spouse fits.

Hill End is near Bathurst. I missed one on post #19

22266/1882 ROGERS ALBERT E - JOHN - JULIA - HILL END

I've checked deaths in Qld. for married daughters using father = john rogers & mother = julia and no hits.

 

[gibbo]

This one states where she is buried

TiOOERS.-Relatives and Friends of Mr. and Mrs. J.V ALBERT ROGERS, of Bathuist; Mr. ond Mrs. JACK MANSELL, ol Bathurst; Mr. and Mrs. O. R. NEWMAN; and Miss WINIFRED NEWMAN, of Dul- wich Hill, are Invited to attend the Funeral ol their beloved MOTHER and GRANDMOTHER, Julia Rogers; to leave the Private Mortuary Chapel of Motor Funerals, Limited, 30 City-road, city, THIS AFTERNOON, at 2.30, for Methodist Cemetery, Field of Mars, per motor service


Field of Mars
NEW 2
0000394
ROGERS Julian
18 Nov 1930

And John is buried with her
Field of Mars
NEW 2
0000394
ROGERS John
28 Nov 1921

I'll see if i can find a death notice for him. Might help confirm its the right lot or where he was born.

 

[DaveHam9]

John born about 1860 so we have a 15 year gap if it's the same John & Julia.

Ryerson seems to be down.

 

[gibbo]

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)(about)
Monday 28 November 1921

ROGERS - The Friends of Miss W. Newman, Mr. and
Mrs. A. MANSELL, of Bathurst; and Mr. and Mrs. C. R. NEWMAN of Denison-road, Petersham, are invited to attend the the Funeral of their beloved GRANDFATHER: to leave 11 Emily-street, Leichhardt, THIS DAY, at 2.15, for Field of Mats Cemetery.



See if you can read this one

ROGERS-The Friends of Mrs JOHN ROGERS and Mr and Mrs A E Rogers late of Bathurst, J r N MM MAN o' Donison roa 1 letrrshini ore Insited to attend the lui» ral of 1er belovei IIUSHANU nut the r i-ATIILU to leave 11 Inilvstret 1 eich , liurilt, Tilla DM at 2 la pm, lor Methodist Ceme i ter} Field of Mars

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

I can read JOHN ROGERS. :2fun:

I can't find a tree.

Ryerson says no result for 1921.

November and Petersham:

16969/1921 ROGERS JOHN - WILLIAM - - PETERSHAM

 

[gibbo]

Yeah and thats only cause i fixed that part of the article up :2fun::2fun:

 

[DaveHam9]

South Brisbane Cemetery Monumental Inscriptions
Name: John Rogers
Title:
Birth Date:
Death Date: 15 August 1909
Age: 39y
Comments:
Portion: 3B

South Brisbane Cemetery Monumental Inscriptions
Name: Janet Rogers
Title:
Birth Date:
Death Date: 25 May 1946
Age: 81y
Comments:
Portion: 3B



Death1909/B11377 Rogers John - John - Julia

Death # 15 Aug 1909/B11377 Rogers John John Julia Pearce

Why has Qld. BMD taken the maiden name off?


Victoria:

Surname: ROGERS
Given Names: John
Event: B
Father: John
Mother: Julia PEARCE
Birth Place: BLAC = about 7 possible places
Year: 1870
Reg Number: 19187

 

[DaveHam9]

South Australia Marriage
Groom: ROGERS
Given names: John
Bride: PEARCE
Given names: Julia
Date: 1865-11-19
Groom Age: 22
Status: N
Groom's Father: William ROGERS
Bride Age: 21
Status: N
Bride's Father: Richard PEARCE
Place: Res of Samuel Vial Wallaroo Mine
District: Ade
Symbol:
Book/Page: 64/56
Cross Reference:

B.I.S.A
ROGERS John res: Wallaroo Mines
m: 19.11.1865 Wallaroo Mines SA Julia nee PEARCE

 

[DaveHam9]

Damn. I had that info all the time but had not copied it to my tree.

I need one more thing. Birth for this one to prove it:

Death 1949/B21165 Rogers Richard Pearce - John - Julia

No burial on BCC site.

 

[gibbo]

Looks like John Rogers come out on the same ship as the Pearce family. Suppose you going to tell me you already have that :2fun::2fun:


Cornwallis, 648 tons, Captain T.G. Vaile, from London 20th May, Plymouth 3rd June, 1865 arrived at Port Adelaide, South Australia 26th August 1865


Pearce Richard 59 Labourer 1256/3 St. Erth, Cornwall with family
Mary 54
Henry 14

Pearce Hugh 21 Labourer 1255/3 With parents
Pearce Jacob 23 Labourer 1255/3
Pearce Thomas 16 Labourer 1257/2
Pearce William 26 Labourer
Pearce Julia 20 Servant 1256/3 St. Erth, Cornwall with parents

Rogers John 21 Labourer 1378/3 Cornwall

http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/cornwallis1865.shtml

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

No, didn't have that. :2fun:

I knew it would be Cornwall eventually.

 

[gibbo]

Day Month 15-Feb
Year 1845
Parish Or Reg District Keverne, St.
Forename Julia
Surname PEARCE
*** dau
Father Forename Richard
Mother Forename Mary
Residence Trevalsoe
Father Rank Profession Farmer

 

[gibbo]

I cant find the birth for Richard Pearce Rogers in SA. No doubt he was born there. Maybe if they were out bush at the mining camp some births might not have been registered

 

[gibbo]

These are the only 2 births i can find

1867 53/17
ROGERS Mary Annie
John ROGERS
Julia PEARCE
Daly


1866 40/478
ROGERS Mary Anna
John ROGERS
Julia PEARCE
Adelaide

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

John was born in Victoria in 1870 but I can't find a reg there for Richard.