John ALLAN and Agnes ?

[DaveHam9]

1841
Piece: SCT1841/644 Place: Glasgow -Lanarkshire ED: 15
Civil Parish: Glasgow Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St George
Folio: 238 Page: 8
Address: Cummings Land, Springbank
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
ALLAN John M 49 Cotton Hand Loom Weaver Lanarkshire
ALLAN Agnes F 52 Lanarkshire
ALLAN Agnes F 23 Cotton Power Loom Weaver Lanarkshire
ALLAN John M 3 Lanarkshire
McGREGOR John M 22 Labourer Outside Census County (1841)

John McGREGOR & Agnes ALLAN
11 Apr 1841 Barony, Lanark
Batch: M119686

Looking for maiden name and marriage for Agnes. Three possible marriages in Lanark.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

So far can't find anything on FS that helps. Will look on SP after lunch.

Seagrave, Porter and McDonald and Allan.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

??
ALLAN
AGNES
JOHN ALLAN/AGNES SEAGRAVE FR2475 (FR2475)
F
26/05/1818
644/1
220 55
Glasgow

 

[DaveHam9]

ALLAN
JOHN
JOHN ALLAN/AGNES SEAGRAVE FR2323 (FR2323)
M
02/03/1816
644/1
210 309
Glasgow


ALLAN
JAMES SEAGRAVE
JOHN ALLAN/AGNES SEAGRAVE FR3586 (FR3586)
M
12/03/1821
644/1
300 161
Glasgow

 

[DaveHam9]

Agnes born Lanark 1818.

Marriage 11/04/1841 McGREGOR JOHN - AGNES ALLAN/FR4802 (FR4802) 622/ 180 130 Barony

So far I can't find them or daughter Agnes born abt 1842 Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, in 1851.

Dave

 

[horse]

So far I can't find them or daughter Agnes born abt 1842 Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, in 1851.

Daughter, Agnes looks to be with a James Peebles and family in 1861.

RD: Milton
Parish: Glasgow Maryhill
Add: 15 Oakbank St
Ref = ED: 44; Page: 14; Line: 4; Roll: CSSCT1861_107
Agnes Mcgregor 19 [b. Kilmarnock. Worsted Steam Loom Weaver]

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, thanks Geoff. Agnes married in Dec 1861 and ends up in Sydney.

I can't find the Allan or the McGregor families in 1851.

John McGregor 22 in 1841 and not born Lanark.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Death
ALLAN
AGNES
[SEAGRAVE]
72
MALCOLM
1856
644/7 112
Milton

Age is out if age in 1841 is correct. Should be in 1851 census.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

This is a problem.

Piece: SCT1851/644 Place: Glasgow -Lanarkshire ED: 23
Civil Parish: St Georges Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Glasgow
Folio: 536 Page: 7 Schedule: 25
Address: 361 Garscube Road
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
FINLAY John Head M M 33 Shoemaker Renfrewshire - Pollokshaws
FINLAY Agnes Wife M F 33 Lanarkshire - Glasgow
FINLAY Agnes Dau - F 9 Scholar Ayrshire - Kilmarnock
FINLAY John Son - M 7 Scholar Ayrshire - Kilmarnock
FINLAY George Son - M 4 Lanarkshire - Glasgow
FINLAY Mary Dau - F 1 Lanarkshire - Glasgow
FINLAY Margaret Mother W F 66 Paupr Frmly Ct Mll Wrk Strtchr Renfrewshire - Pollokshaws
ALLAN Agnes Ma-Law W F 69 Lanarkshire - Glasgow

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriage
ALLAN
AGNES
JOHN FINLAY/FR5168 (FR5168)
26/07/1846
622/
190 98
Barony

 

[horse]

This is a problem.

Piece: SCT1851/644 Place: Glasgow -Lanarkshire ED: 23
Civil Parish: St Georges Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Glasgow
Folio: 536 Page: 7 Schedule: 25
Address: 361 Garscube Road
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
FINLAY John Head M M 33 Shoemaker Renfrewshire - Pollokshaws
FINLAY Agnes Wife M F 33 Lanarkshire - Glasgow
FINLAY Agnes Dau - F 9 Scholar Ayrshire - Kilmarnock
FINLAY John Son - M 7 Scholar Ayrshire - Kilmarnock
FINLAY George Son - M 4 Lanarkshire - Glasgow
FINLAY Mary Dau - F 1 Lanarkshire - Glasgow
FINLAY Margaret Mother W F 66 Paupr Frmly Ct Mll Wrk Strtchr Renfrewshire - Pollokshaws
ALLAN Agnes Ma-Law W F 69 Lanarkshire - Glasgow

Dave

She would have to have remarried

Geoff

 

[horse]

So in 1841 John would be a son rather than a sibling

Geoff

 

[horse]

So in 1841 John would be a son rather than a sibling

May be not, 1841 says b. Lanarkshire..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, looks like John is a son.

Marriage 26/07/1846 ALLAN AGNES - JOHN FINLAY/FR5168 (FR5168) 622/ 190 98 Barony

Agnes reverts to McGregor in 1861 and marries as McGregor.

Page 5
1862 MARRIAGES in the District of Milton in the Burgh of Glasgow
No. 9 1861 December Thirty first at 186 St. Georges Road Glasgow
After Banns according to the forms of the Free Church of Scotland
Signed William McFarlane Iron Dresser Journeyman (Bachelor) - 22 - 11 Caithness Street Glasgow - Daniel McFarlane Ironstone Miner deceased and Marian McFarlane M.S. Watt
(Signed) Agnes McGregor Steam Loom Weaver (Spinster) - 20 - 11 Caithness Street Glasgow - John McGregor Blacksmith deceased and Agnes McGregor M.S. Allan
(Signed) Daniel R Kilpatrick Minister Lyon St Free Church
(Signed) Alexr. Livingstone Witness, Jane Murray Witness
1862 January 2nd at Glasgow James Smith Registrar

 

[DaveHam9]

So, the two born Kilmarnock ?? Not McGregor and not Finlay.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Can't find baptisms for Agnes, John, George or Mary.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

??
Death/Burial
MCGREGOR
JOHN
-----
29
M
28/10/1845
644/2
110 160
Gorbals

 

[DaveHam9]

Death
FINLAY
AGNES
[ALLAN]
78
---
1895
599/ 24
Kilwinning

 

[horse]

Death
FINLAY
AGNES
[ALLAN]
78
---
1895
599/ 24
Kilwinning

The name/s and age look right.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, that death looks ok.

Pity no baptisms for the 4 children.

Dave