John & Annie KELLY

[DaveHam9]

NSW Marriage 2408/1873 KELLY JOHN - CARRIGAN ANNIE - GOULBURN

NSW Birth 12877/1878 KELLY CECILIA MARY - JOHN - ANNIE - GOULBURN

Looking for deaths of John & Annie.

Thanks,

Dave

 

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NSW Marriage 2408/1873 KELLY JOHN - CARRIGAN ANNIE - GOULBURN

NSW birth index
V18531659 70/1853 CORRIGAN ANNE father EDWARD mother MARY



Goulburn Herald (NSW : 1881 - 1907)
Saturday 8 November 1884
Obituary - Mrs Mary Carrigan, relict of the late Mr Edward Carrigan, died at Marulan on Thursday morning last. Her remains were brought to Goulburn by yesterday afternoon's train, and interred in the Church of England cemetery. The deceased was widely known in the district, and in the old coaching days her pleasant countenance and obliging manners as hostess of the White Horse Inn at Wingello contributed with the good management of the house to make that a favourite stopping-place for travellers. She was twice married. Her first husband, Mr Brown, was accidentally shot, and her second, Mr Carrigan, had his life shortened by a fall from his horse. After the closing of the White Horse Inn through the opening of the railway, Mr and Mrs Carrigan removed to an inn at old Marulan, and subsequent to her husband's death Mrs Carrigan opened the Royal Hotel opposite the Marulan railway-station, which she carried on until a few months ago, when, in consequeonce of her failing health, she transferred the license to her son-in-law, Mr John Kelly. Mrs Carrigan enjoyed the respect of all who knew her, and her death snaps another link between past and present in this district.


NSW marriage index
V18522138 150/1852 CARRIGAN EDWARD BROWN MARY CB

NSW death index
3593/1871 CARRIGAN EDWARD AGE 52 YEARS DIED GOULBURN GOULBURN

Unsure which of the below is the right one
7414/1884 CARRIGAN MARY JOHN SARAH PICTON
11374/1884 CARRIGAN MARY THOMAS JULIA JERILDERIE

Still having problems finding Annie's death.

 

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Empire (Sydney, NSW : 1850 - 1875)
Friday 7 February 1873

MARRIAGES.
On the 27th January, at the Roman Catholic Cathedral,Goulburn, by the Rev Father Slattery, John, eldest son of the late Mr. G. Kelly, af Spring Creek, to Annie, eldest daughter or the late Mr. E. Corrigan, of Golden Fleece Hotel,
Marulan.

 

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Birth index
V18511196 68/1851 KELLY JOHN father GARRETT mother ANN

Death index
22001/1919 KELLY JOHN father GARRETT mother AMY PETERSHAM

Marriage index
V18481204 95/1848 KELLY GARRETT TIGHE ANNE LD

NSW death index
4088/1872 KELLY GARRETT AGE 53 YEARS DIED GOULBURN GOULBURN

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)
Wednesday 7 August 1872
DEATHS.
On the 17th May, 1872, at Spring Creek, Jacqua, New South Wales, after a lingering illness borne with Christian fortitude, GARRETT KELLY, aged 52 years, native of Ballinasloe, Ireland, leaving a disconsolate wife and family to deplore their loss. And in your charity pray for his soul.

Arrival for Garrett
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12861-69408-55?cc=1542665

 

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Death index
22001/1919 KELLY JOHN father GARRETT mother AMY PETERSHAM

Obituary for John Kelly

Goulburn Evening Penny Post (NSW : 1881 - 1940)
Tuesday 9 December 1919

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/art...hn AND "kelly"&searchLimits=exactPhrase=kelly

 

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John was put on a train and buried in Goulburn

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/art...hn AND "kelly"&searchLimits=exactPhrase=kelly

Im still having problems finding the right death for Annie.

 

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NSW birth index
V18531659 70/1853 CORRIGAN ANNE father EDWARD mother MARY

This is the only one i can find for a death for Annie that seems ok but i cant find anything to confirm it.

6324/1916 KELLY ANNIE M EDWARD MARY PETERSHAM

 

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This looks close and age fits...

Freeman's Journal (Sydney, NSW : 1850 - 1932), 25 May 1916
Quote
Mrs. Annie Marion Kelly, wife of Mr.
John Kelly, undertaker, of Goulburn, died
suddenly at West-street, Lewisham, early on
Sunday morning, 14th May, at the age' of ,
63 -years, the cause of death being heart
. failure. Mrs. Kelly, who had been in at
. tendance on her daughter, who for the past
ten weeks has been in the Lewisham Hospi
tal, was in the best of health on Saturday, .
und the news of her death came as a great
shock to the family. The late Mrs. Kelly
was born at Marulan, and leaves a husband,
two sons, and two daughters. The sons are
Air. Arthur Kelly (of Beecroft) and Mr.
Wally Kelly (of . Temora ) ; the daughters be
ing Mrs. W. M'Lean (Goulburn). and Miss
Kelly (who resides at home). The remains
were brought to Goulburn on Monday night,
and after the Requiem Mass on Tuesday
morning .the funeral left SS. Peter and
Paul's Cathedral for Kenmore cemetery. End Quote

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/art...||frommm|||fromdd|||toyyyy=1916|||tomm|||todd

May be your lady. After enquiry, Inquest dispensed with, looks like natural causes

New South Wales, Australia, Registers of Coroners' Inquests, 1821-1937
Annie M Kelly
Death Year: Abt 1916
Inquest Date: 15 May 1916

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo. Great work.

Thanks Geoff.

We don't know Mary's maiden name or have her marriage to BROWN and so can't sort out the two 1884 deaths. Being November I would have chosen the reg with the larger # but Picton is closer to Marulan.

Huge number of marriages for a Mary to a BROWN before 1852. We need Mr. Brown's first name. Probably an inquest if he was shot. Deaths for 77x Brown 1850-1852.

Deaths for both John & Annie registered in Petersham. Need early E/R.

 

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Possible...

There is a tree suggesting Williams..

New South Wales, Australia, Registers of Convicts' Applications to Marry, 1826-1851
Thomas Brown
Age: 28
Birth Year: Abt 1805
Spouse: Mary Williams
Request Status: Granted
Date of Permission/Refusal: 3 Sep 1833

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Burials
V18481110 33B/1848 BROWN THOMAS AGE 30
V185139 37B/1851 BROWN THOMAS AGE 56
V1851925 37B/1851 BROWN THOMAS AGE 46
V18521863 38B/1852 BROWN THOMAS AGE 45

 

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If this is her Mary was 'Free' The original permission gives her age as 16y..

New South Wales, Australia, Registers of Convicts' Applications to Marry, 1826-1851
Mary Williams
Age: 16
Birth Year: Abt 1817
Spouse: Thomas Brown
Request Status: Granted
Date of Permission/Refusal: 3 Sep 1833
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Mary Williams
Spouse Name: Thomas Brown
Marriage Date: 1833
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Cobbitty, Narellan, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1833
Volume Number: V

A possible birth to ponder...

Mary Williams
Birth Date: 1817
Father: John Williams
Mother: Sarah
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1817
Registration Place: Castlereagh, New South Wales
Volume Number: V18174263 1B

I'll try to find a tree to confirm this...

Geoff

 

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Thanks Geoff.

Burials
V18481110 33B/1848 BROWN THOMAS AGE 30
V185139 37B/1851 BROWN THOMAS AGE 56
V1851925 37B/1851 BROWN THOMAS AGE 46
V18521863 38B/1852 BROWN THOMAS AGE 45

Most of those would be acceptable for DOD...

 

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There is a tree that gives Thomas' death as 1851 Bathurst...

 

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There is a tree that gives Thomas' death as 1851 Bathurst...

Would that be this one?

Thomas Brown
Death Date: 1851
Death Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1851
Registration Place: Bungonia, Goulburn, Goulburn Plains, Lake Bathurst, Marulan, New South Wales
Volume Number: V1851925 37B

Geoff

 

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Birth index
V18511196 68/1851 KELLY JOHN father GARRETT mother ANN

Death index
22001/1919 KELLY JOHN father GARRETT mother AMY PETERSHAM

Marriage index
V18481204 95/1848 KELLY GARRETT TIGHE ANNE LD

NSW death index
4088/1872 KELLY GARRETT AGE 53 YEARS DIED GOULBURN GOULBURN

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)
Wednesday 7 August 1872
DEATHS.
On the 17th May, 1872, at Spring Creek, Jacqua, New South Wales, after a lingering illness borne with Christian fortitude, GARRETT KELLY, aged 52 years, native of Ballinasloe, Ireland, leaving a disconsolate wife and family to deplore their loss. And in your charity pray for his soul.

Arrival for Garrett
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12861-69408-55?cc=1542665

Obituary for John Kelly's mother.

Bowral Free Press and Berrima District Intelligencer (NSW : 1884 - 1901)
Wednesday 11 November 1891
DEATH OF MRS. ANN KELLY:
There isa true saying that trouble seldom comes singly. About three weeks ago we announced that Mr. P. McGatilley, of this office, had followed to the grave at Goulburn the remains of his wife's sister ; and. it now becomes our painful lot to chronicle; another death in his family—that of Mrs,.Ann Kelly, of Clifford-street, Goulburn, aged 62 years, which 0cc.1rred.at n.30 on Sunday night last, November 8th. Fearing that her end was rapidly approaching; a telegram was dispatched to Mr. McGaulley on Sunday morning through the railway department, but it was not till late: that night that the telegram reached its destination. Both Mr. and Mrs. McGaulley at once left for Goulburn, but their mother had already been dead three hours when they arrived. We are assured that the end - was peace. Mrs...Kelly was amongst those who were early attacked by influenza, and the case wasat first so serious that her life was despaired of. She however rallied and every hope was entertained of her recovery,,but unfortunately she had a relapse and died as above stated. She was the? .widow of Mr. Garrett Kelly, formerly- aresident of the 'Bungonia district, who,died some fifteen years ago. Mrs. Kelly was a native of county Mayo, Ireland,,having come to this colony when ten years of age. Mrs. Kelly's eldest daughter
etcetc
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/art...kelly"&searchLimits=exactPhrase=garrett+kelly

NSW death index
6608/1891 KELLY ANN PATRICK T ELLEN GOULBURN

 

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Would that be this one?

Thomas Brown
Death Date: 1851
Death Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1851
Registration Place: Bungonia, Goulburn, Goulburn Plains, Lake Bathurst, Marulan, New South Wales
Volume Number: V1851925 37B

Geoff

Seems like it

The Goulburn Herald and County of Argyle Advertiser (NSW : 1848 - 1859) Saturday 19 July 1851
DEATH.
Died, at Tuena, on the 9th instant, from injuries received by the acceidental discharge of a gun, Mr. Thomas Brown, innkeeper, of Wingello, aged 46 years, leaving a wife and seven children to deplore their loss.

 

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One of the trees has a fairly interesting story 'Mary Williams (1817 - 1884) and her husbands Thomas Brown and Edward Carrigan'

I'll send you both a copy, too large to post here [It will be exactly as copied, including spaces]...

Geoff

 

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Thanks Geoff, so Thomas Brown was a young convict.

 

[horse]

Yep, no clergy to balance it out, though :biggrin: