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John Bernard ROMBERG - ship to Australia

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Following on from Geoff's land order. Shame they didn't put the whole year there. Just got the 1.

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Land orders 1862-1878

10132 FIRTH Priscilla,, Land 822,, Date iss. 22 august 1 ,, Page 29,, IMM/250,, Item ID 18772,, film # Z2517

10133 FIRTH Priscilla,, Land 68/71,, Date iss. 19 June 1 ,, Page 40,, IMM/255,, Item ID 18778 ,, film # Z2518
 
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IMM/247
Start Date 11/11/1862
End Date 19/2/1864

822 22 Aug 1863

68/71 19 Jun 1868

Don't know why three and one as late as 1868.
 
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Unassisted - employed by someone for probably 12 months - possibly arrived 1861 after census or 1862. Don't know how we find the vessel.
 
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Thank you both. Just reading through this now.
I’ve found a marriage between Joseph FIRTH and a Mary SHALES in 1840. I have death of Betty FIRTH nee Platt as 1839. Do you think Joseph could’ve re-married?
 
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We would need to check occupation for Joseph in 1841 census against the occupation listed in baptism of Priscilla and Matilda if images can be found.
It is a Mary not Betty/Elizabeth in 1841.

FIRTH, BETTY 36
GRO Reference: 1839 D Quarter in ASHTON AND OLDHAM Volume 20 Page 80
FIRTH, BETTY 1
GRO Reference: 1839 D Quarter in ASHTON AND OLDHAM Volume 20 Page 107

That 1840 marriage not on Lancs OPC.
 
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gibbo said:
Following on from Geoff's land order. Shame they didn't put the whole year there. Just got the 1.

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Land orders 1862-1878

10132 FIRTH Priscilla,, Land 822,, Date iss. 22 august 1 ,, Page 29,, IMM/250,, Item ID 18772,, film # Z2517

10133 FIRTH Priscilla,, Land 68/71,, Date iss. 19 June 1 ,, Page 40,, IMM/255,, Item ID 18778 ,, film # Z2518
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Kate, maybe drop the QLD state archives a email and ask if there is any further information on the Land Orders records such as ship and date of arrival. Could be worth ordering a copy to check it out.
 
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Age 26y,b 1837 ,English,Spinster, on the Hannah More from Liverpool sailed 13 Jan.1863 ,arrival date 8th July Brisbane
(Majority of passengers transferred to Keppel Bay by steamer Clarence (The Courier, Jul 1863)

(transcript) @FMP

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/1269743
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/77291371
QUEENSLAND IMMIGRATION AND THE BLACK BALL LINE
https://espace.library.uq.edu.au/view/UQ:204867/s00855804_1977_78... · PDF file
the shipowners were to receive for each passenger carried an £18 land order and, in addition, a cash payment of £2.17.0 for pas sengers despatched to Moreton Bay and £3.17.0 for those
 
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John Romberg Burial Charters Towers, Queensland, Australia
22 Dec 1904 exhumed too the above (Edit or moved to Priscilla,s grave)
1895-
PLOT LYND, Section 26, Plot 193, Grave # 4162
1904
LYND, Section 21, Plot 0, Grave # 2695
 
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FMP .. Used Hannah More as keyword

Firth Pricilla — — 1863 Queensland Customs House Shipping 1852-1885: Passengers And Crew Queensland, Australia
Firth Priscilla 1837 — 1863 Queensland Customs House Shipping 1852-1885: Passengers And Crew Queensland, Australia
 
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PriscillaLast name FruithRelationship DaughterMarital status -*** FemaleAge 14Birth year 1847Occupation Cotton WeaverBirth town -Birth town as transcribed EXTERFIELDBirth county Lancashire

BarnardLast name FruithRelationship HeadMarital status Married*** MaleAge 48Birth year 1813Occupation Farmer Of 10 AcesBirth town -Birth town as transcribed CAPTISWISTOR

BettyLast name FruithRelationship WifeMarital status Married*** FemaleAge 48Birth year 1813Occupation -Birth town -Birth town as transcribed MIDDLESEXBirth county Yorkshire
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census (TNA)
 
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Ellie7 said:
John Romberg Burial Charters Towers, Queensland, Australia
22 Dec 1904 exhumed too the above (Edit or moved to Priscilla,s grave)
1895-
PLOT LYND, Section 26, Plot 193, Grave # 4162
1904
LYND, Section 21, Plot 0, Grave # 2695
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He would have been originally buried in the Pioneer Cemetery which closed in 1895 so probably one of the last to be buried there. The new cemetery on the Lynd highway opened in 1895. The burial records state exhumed from No 1 cem.

edited.. The one exhumed was a son to John and Priscilla.
Death index
1874 C1281 John Thomas Romberg John Bernard Romberg Pricilla Firth
 
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Ellie7 said:
PriscillaLast name FruithRelationship DaughterMarital status -*** FemaleAge 14Birth year 1847Occupation Cotton WeaverBirth town -Birth town as transcribed EXTERFIELDBirth county Lancashire

BarnardLast name FruithRelationship HeadMarital status Married*** MaleAge 48Birth year 1813Occupation Farmer Of 10 AcesBirth town -Birth town as transcribed CAPTISWISTOR

BettyLast name FruithRelationship WifeMarital status Married*** FemaleAge 48Birth year 1813Occupation -Birth town -Birth town as transcribed MIDDLESEXBirth county Yorkshire
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census (TNA)
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Father is Joseph and age for Priscilla is 10 years out.

Pricilla Firth
Gender Female
Christening Date 09 Apr 1837
Christening Place Mottram-in-Longdendale, Cheshire, England
Father's Name Joseph Firth
Mother's Name Betty
Batch: C749303
GS Film number 1656487

Priscilla with Matilda in 1861 in post #32.
 
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Thanks Ellie.

Very interesting even though I don't have any that I know of in my tree who arrived in Qld. by that scheme.

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Kate, Im from Charters Towers and if all goes to plan we are heading up there in about 6 weeks to see the kids and grandkids. While im there would you like me to take some headstone photos for you? That's if they have headstones.
 
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gibbo said:
Kate, Im from Charters Towers and if all goes to plan we are heading up there in about 6 weeks to see the kids and grandkids. While im there would you like me to take some headstone photos for you? That's if they have headstones.
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Thanks for the offer Gibbo. I have photos of both Priscilla and John’s headstones already. I think my Dad took them on a trip one year.
 
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