John BROUGHTON

[DaveHam9]

Burial V18215167 2B/1821 BROUGHTON WILLIAM AGE 53

1821 July 25 William Broughton Liverpool 53 Gentleman Liverpool St. Lukes Liv.A

John Born Sep 29, 1832 Campbelltown, NSW
Died 1924 ‎(Age 91)‎ Young, NSW

Marriage 596/1857 BROUGHTON JOHN - CHURCH EMILY BROUGHTON - SYDNEY * 21 Jul 1857 * Not CofE PR ?

The Sydney Morning Herald - Thu 10 Sep 1857 p.12
MARRIAGES
On the 21st July, at St. Philip's Church, by the Venerable Archdeacon Cowper, John, second son of William Henry Broughton, Esq., of Broughtonsworth, to Emily, youngest daughter of the late Captain John F. Church.

Death 20181/1924 BROUGHTON JOHN - WILLIAM - MARY - YOUNG * 18 Oct 1924


Something is not right. John born 1832 is the son of William but William died 1821.

 

[emeltee]

Looking at the Marriage announcement in 1857 it states that emily is the youngest daughter of the late Captain Church. This implies that Captain Church is deceased. However it also states that John is the second son of William Henry Broughton. It doesn't say the late William Henry so implies that he is still alive.

I don't suppose the 1821 death could be the father of William Henry could it?

 

[gibbo]

The Sydney Morning Herald - Thu 10 Sep 1857 p.12
MARRIAGES
On the 21st July, at St. Philip's Church, by the Venerable Archdeacon Cowper, John, second son of William Henry Broughton, Esq., of Broughtonsworth, to Emily, youngest daughter of the late Captain John F. Church.

Death 20181/1924 BROUGHTON JOHN - WILLIAM MARY - YOUNG * 18 Oct 1924

Something is not right. John born 1832 is the son of William but William died 1821.

I think the William who died 1821 is the wrong William.

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)
Thu 9 Sep 1858
DEATHS

On the 4th September, at Yass, William Henry Broughton, Esq.,J.P., of Broughtonsworth, Burrowa, in the 57th year of his age.

BROUGHTON WILLIAM H 5900/1858 AGE 56 YEARS DIED YASS YASS

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Emeltee.

I have to check a few things. One says William and the other W H = William Henry.

No sign of a baptism in NSW index around 1832 for John.

V1810464 147A/1810 BROUGHTON WILLIAM - SIMPSON ELIZA C - CB= CofE St. John's Parramatta

SAG 0055
St. John's Parramatta
No. 328
William Broughton otp St Philip of Sydney
Eliza Charlotte Simpson of Parramatta were
married in this Church by Special Licence Granted by Govr. L. Macquarie
this fourth Day of December 1810 By me Samuel Marsden
Parties signed: William Broughton, Eliza Charlotte Simpson
Witnesses: Jas R. Kennedy, Jane Kennedy

That would mean there should be a baptism for a son W H.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

Now I'm really lost.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Wed 22 Oct 1924 p.14
NONAGENARIAN'S DEATH.
PIONEER OF THE WEST.
Mr. John Broughton, a pioneer of settlement in the middle west of the State, died at the house of his daughter, Mrs. F. Clayton, of Young, on Saturday last, at the age of 92 years. He was a son of the late Mr. W. H. Broughton, who, at one time, owned Broughtonville station, Urana; and his grandfather, William Broughton, arrived in Australia in the time of Governor Phillip.

 

[DaveHam9]

W H born abt 1801.

Baptism BROUGHTON WILLIAM 1087/1802 V18021087 1A WILLIAM - ELIZABETH (HEATHORN)

I don't know if that is the right baptism.

The one who died 1821 could be this one.

 

[DaveHam9]

This is the marriage I'm working back from.

596/1857 BROUGHTON JOHN - CHURCH EMILY BROUGHTON - SYDNEY * 21 Jul

 

[DaveHam9]

We need another death/burial for a William.

One tree has the death William who married in 1810 in 1821.

 

[DaveHam9]

There has to be a marriage of William to a Mary.

183/1827 V1827183 11 BROUGHTON WILLIAM - WARD MARY - CI= CofE Campbelltown, St Peters (Co. Airds)

4025/1827 V18274025 3B BROUGHTON WILLIAM - WARD MARY - CI

Ok that is the father of John born abt 1832.

 

[DaveHam9]

I'm lost with so many Williams.

Parents of John( born abt 1832) who died 1924 are W H & Mary. W H was still alive in 1857 and he died 1858 in his 57th year.

John's grandfather was William.

 

[gibbo]

The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954)
Thu 23 Oct 1924

MR. JOHN BROUGHTON.

The late Mr. John Broughton, a pioneer of the west, whose death was announced in yesterday's "Herald," was a son of the late Mr. W. H. Broughton, who owned Broughtonsworth station, near Boorowa. It was after leaving Cockedgedong station, Urana, that Mr. John Broughton took over Marengo station, near Young, afterwards joining the late Mr. F. A. Brock in a stock and station business in Young. Mr. Broughton was born at Brough-tonsworth station. He has left two sons—Mr. J. W. Broughton, inspector in the Bank of New South Wales; and Mr. Ernest Broughton, station manager at Young—and four daughters—Mrs. C. G. Tuson, of Turramurra; Mrs. Clayton, of Young; Mrs. A. W. Moriarty, of Goulburn; and Mrs. W. P. Bluett, of Queanbeyan.

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[DaveHam9]

The 1810 Marriage was William's 2nd so there should be a death for Elizabeth but not in the index.

The 1810 marriage does not give status.

The 1801 birth/1802 baptism must be that of W H.

 

[DaveHam9]

This solves it. Elizabeth didn't die in NSW.

http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/broughton-william-1831