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John C. LANE

DaveHam9

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Hello,

John LANE b. 15 Jul 1822 c. 19 Jan 1830 St James Manchester, Lancashire
- parents William LANE & Hannah

name: John Caldwell Lane
event: Marriage
event date: 15 Aug 1852
event place: St. John, Chester, Cheshire, England
gender: Male
age: 30y
marital status: Single
father: William Lane
mother:
spouse: Sarah Ann Dodd
spouse's marital status: Single
spouse's father: Samuel Dodd
spouse's mother:
film number: 2045952
digital folder number: 4018788
image number: 663


It is claimed Sarah died in Cheshire in 1889 after having remarried in 1854 and 1859 in England.

So John arrived in Australia without Sarah 1852 - 1858. ???


I'd like a look up please for John in 1851 - should be Chester St Peters and 1841 Manchester, Lancs. He was a blacksmith.

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Hi Dave,

Civil parish Chester St Peter - RD Great Boughton - Sub RD Cathedral Division

Ann Dodd head head age 52 occ milk seller born Chester Cheshire
John Lane son in law age 29 occ dentist born Manchester
Sarah Lane dau age 24 born Barrow Cheshire
Amelia Ann g/dau age 2mths born Chester
Mary Fisher visitor
John Jackson visitor
Richard Wells visitor
John Knowland visitor
Matilda Thomas servant
Rachael Stevenson servant
John Jackson visitor
Richard Wells Visitor
Thomas Davies Lodger
Jane Davies Lodger
Mary Brirlely Lodger


Class H0107
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Folio 237
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Thanks Julie.

Glad my dentist was never once a blacksmith. :2fun:

Something is fishy. John married in 1858 in NSW. I don't have a copy of that one yet but it will probably show him as a bachelor, unless he describes himself as a widower. Looks as if he up and left Sarah 1852-1858.
 

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name: John Caldwell Lane
event: Marriage
event date: 15 Aug 1852
event place: St. John, Chester, Cheshire, England
gender: Male
age: 30y
marital status: Single
father: William Lane
mother:
spouse: Sarah Ann Dodd
spouse's marital status: Single
spouse's father: Samuel Dodd
spouse's mother:
film number: 2045952
digital folder number: 4018788
image number: 663

But there is this one baptised the same day:


name: Ann Lane
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 15 Aug 1852
baptism/christening place: St Peter's, Chester, Cheshire, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Lane
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Sarah Ann Lane
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C02792-3
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1655593
reference number:
 

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name: Sarah Anne Dodd
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 1826
baptism/christening place: BARROW, CHESTER, ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Samuel Dodd
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Anne
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C39639-1
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1655852
reference number: p35
 

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Hi Dave,

This could be young Amelia's marriage.

Amelia Anne Lane - Jul/Aug/Sep 1872 - Chester

Grooms listed:-

William Davenport
Thomas Jones
Frederick Kingdon
George Rider
 

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Thanks Julie.

A daughter born in NSW was also named Amelia.

The 'dentist' must be an error. John worked on the goldfields in NSW as a blacksmith.

Still searching shipping records for him and checking if the various trees are correct.

George RIDER.
 
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Hi Dave,

1871 - Civil parish St Peter- RD Chester - Sub RD Chester Cathedral

Charles Washington age 53 born Chester
Sarah wife age 40 born Barrow
Annie Lane stepdaughter age 20 born Chester
Kate Washington dau age 14
Chs W Washington son age 11
Walter J Washington son age 2
Plus 2 lodgers

Class RG10
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Sarah's 2nd of 3 marriages so John must have left her by then. Wonder if he had left the country by then too.

groom's name: George Reid Smith
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Sarah Ann Lane
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 17 Aug 1854
marriage place: St. Simon'S, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
groom's father's name: Edmund Smith
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: William Lane
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: I02422-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1656675
reference number: item 5 p 108
 

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Hi Dave,

Charles Washingtions age had been mistranscribed in 1871 should read 33 not 53.

1861 - Civil parish Chester Holy Trinity - RD Great Boughton - Sub RD Cathedral Division

Charles Washington head age 23 occ plumber born Chester
Sarah wife age 32 born Chester
Ann Lane (transcribed as Ann Lam Washington) age 10 born Chester
Kate Smith step dau age 4 born chester
Chas Washington son age --mths born Chester

Class RG9
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Folio 66
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Thanks Julie.

So the part of the tree is correct re the 3 marriages.

This what I have:

groom's name: William Lane
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Hannah Caldwell
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 24 Feb 1816
marriage place: Manchester, Lancaster, England
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status: Single
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status: Single
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M01235-2
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1545578
reference number: 273

then a birth/baptism:

John LANE b. 15 Jul 1822 c. 19 Jan 1830 St James Manchester, Lancashire, England
- parents William LANE & Hannah

then a marriage:

name: John Caldwell Lane
event: Marriage
event date: 15 Aug 1852
event place: St. John, Chester, Cheshire, England
gender: Male
age: 30y
marital status: Single
father: William Lane
mother:
spouse: Sarah Ann Dodd
spouse's marital status: Single
spouse's father: Samuel Dodd
spouse's mother:
film number: 2045952
digital folder number: 4018788
image number: 663


Arrival in Australia 1852-1858 ???

Death in NSW:

The Sydney Morning Herald - Tuesday 15 July 1902 p.1
DEATHS
LANE.-July 14, 1902, at his residence, No. 40 Fulham-street Newtown, John Colwell Lane, aged 78 years. Manchester and American papers please copy.

William & Hannah died in America.
 

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Colwell is not Caldwell but the 'Manchester and American papers please copy' bit seems to tie it to William & Hannah.

I can't see any major problems so it looks as if John just up and left.

I'll still try to find this NSW marriage on film - not important enough to pay for a copy:

2335/1858 LANE JOHN - SARA ELIZA A - ORANGE
 

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name: John Lane
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Male
age: 19
birthplace: Lancashire
record type: Household
registration district: Manchester
sub-district: The London Road
civil parish: Manchester
county: Lancashire
 

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Hi Dave,

This John Lane is on the NSW unassisted passenger list the port of departure San Francisco, California, United States.

Ship Mary Melville
John Lane
Port of arrival Sydney NSW
Arrival date 14 Jan 1856
 

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Hi Dave,

1841 has William, Hannah and John Lane alltogether living at Grosvenor Street also with them is a Sarah Lane age 74 ind/not born in county.

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Thanks Julie.

I have no idea when William and Hannah went to USA. I'm not that interested in them. The connection to my tree is via John's daughter Amelia born in NSW.
 

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