John Clayton ADAMS

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Births Dec 1840
Adams John Clayton Edmonton 3 87

1881
RG11 Piece / Folio 0792 / 56 Page 6
Census Place Cranleigh, Surrey, England
Dwelling Brackenhurst
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John C. ADAMS Head M Male 40 Edmonton, Middlesex, England Artist Landscape
Mary F. ADAMS Wife M Female 43 St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Margaret J.M.C. ADAMS Daur Female 7 Cranleigh, Surrey, England Scholar
Henry C. ADAMS Son Male 4 Cranleigh, Surrey, England Scholar
Jane ADAMS Mother W Female 75 Enfield, Middlesex, England Artists Mother
Mariane ADAMS Sister U Female 34 Edmonton, Middlesex, England Artists Sister
Rosina LONGHURST Serv U Female 20 Wotton, Surrey, England Serv Domestic

I'm trying to trace John C ADAMS to find his parents. He was single in 1871.

Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[woodlander]

Hi Dave

Name: John Clayton Adams
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1841
Baptism Date: 2 Mar 1841
Father's Name: Charles Henry Adams
Mother's Name: Jane Adams
Parish or Poor Law Union: Edmonton All Saints
Borough: Enfield

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Woody,

That's one way of doing it. :2fun:

Thank you very much.

Now, where does the Clayton come from?

Regards,

Dave

 

[woodlander]

Possible marriage

Name: Charles Henry Adams
Spouse Name: Jane Sawyer
Record Type: Banns
Marriage Bann Date: 16 Apr 1834
Parish: St Andrew, Enfield
County: Middlesex
Borough: Enfield

 

[woodlander]

1851 census
Piece:1703 Folio:199 Page:34 Registration District:Edmonton
Civil Parish:Edmonton
Address:Church Street, Edmonton County:Middlesex

ADAMS, Charles H Head Married 48 Schoolmaster & Lecturer

ADAMS, Jane Wife Married 44

ADAMS, Jane Daughter 15
ADAMS, Charles H Son 11
ADAMS, John C Son 10
ADAMS, Harriet Daughter 8
ADAMS, Mariana Daughter 4
ADAMS, Henry Wm Son 2
PEAKE, Eliza Servant 20 House Servant
BRADFORD, Emma Servant Unmarried F 16

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Woody,

Thanks. That would fit.

So it can't be this one:

Marriages Mar 1838
Adams William St. Martin in the Fields 1 115
Clayton Susanna St Martin in the Fields 1 115

So John seems the only one with initial C. Mariana's birth reg just has Mariana and it looks like an incorrect page no. No middle initial there for Harriet.

Births Dec 1842
Adams Harriet Edmonton 3 117

Regards,

Dave

 

[woodlander]

Hi Dave

Here's Mariana's baptism, not sure if you want this
Name: Mariana Adams
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1847
Baptism Date: 1 Jan 1847
Father's Name: Charles Henry Adams
Mother's Name: Jane Adams
Parish or Poor Law Union: Edmonton All Saints
Borough: Enfield

 

[woodlander]

Might/might not be correct Jane - haven't found a fitting John Sawyer marriage as yet

Name: Jane Sawyer
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1815
Baptism Date: 25 Jun 1815
Father's Name: John Sawyer
Mother's Name: Jane Sawyer
Parish or Poor Law Union: Edmonton All Saints
Borough: Enfield

Searching for a marriage, came across this much later one - does this fit with your later people or am I losing the plot :2fun:

Name: John Alder Sawyer
Spouse Name: Margaret Mary Joan Clayton Adams
Record Type: Banns
Marriage Bann Date: 20 Jun 1897
Parish: St Andrew
County: London
Borough: Enfield

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Woody,

Thank you very much.

No, you are not losing the plot. From 1881 census:

Margaret J.M.C. ADAMS Daur Female 7 Cranleigh, Surrey, England Scholar

Jane would be more like 1807 if age in 1851 is accurate. Possible:

Jane SAWYER
Birth: 28 Jan 1807
Christening: 27 Apr 1807 Saint Andrew, Enfield, London, England

Father: Henry SAWYER
Mother: Anne


Regards,

Dave

 

[josie7644]

Great work Woody! :biggrin:

Here are the children of the Henry Sawyer/Anne marriage, who were all baptised at St Andrews Church in Enfield.

Henry John 24 Aug 1802
Alicia Anne 30 Sept 1803
John 17 June 1805
Jane 27 April 1807
Samuel Clayton 24 April 1809
Harriet 4 June 1810
Ellen 13 September 1812
William Clayton 23 February 1831 (born 2 April 1816)
Clara Lewin 23 February 1831 (born 27 Mar 1814)
Octavius Mason 23 February 1831 (born 15 December 1818 )
Arthur Albert 23 February 1831 (born 1st April 1824)

(Mass Baptism of the last four!) :biggrin:

So the Clayton name must come from the ancestor of either Henry or Anne. Now what about Lewin and Mason? :2fun:

Josie

 

[woodlander]

More by good luck than good management Josie :biggrin:

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Josie,

Thanks. I was wondering if John Clayton ADAMS was the first but no, it goes back before the SAWYER family. For ADAMS children born after 1900 that's carrying things too far for them to have 3 middle names with the third being Clayton.


No spouse if this is the one.

groom's name: Henry Sawyer
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name:
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 16 Dec 1801
marriage place: Hackney, Middlesex, England
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: I03553-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 2214815
reference number: 01919

Regards,

Dave

 

[josie7644]

Hi Dave,

I scrolled through the whole of batch number I03553-9, hoping to find a matching spouse married on the same day as Henry, but there wasn't one!

Sorry!

Josie

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Josie,

Thanks for looking. We've gone back 3 generations so that's more than I expected. I went through FS looking for a marriage with Clayton and didn't find one.

Deaths Sep 1906
Adams John Clayton 65 Hambledon 2a 111

I can't find a death for spouse Mary Frances. Probably just as Mary.

Births Jun 1838
Tupper Mary Francis St Pancras 1 210


So I'd like a look up please in 1891 and 1901 for the family.

Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[josie7644]

Hi Dave,

1901

John C Adams 60 artist landscape own account
Mary F Adams 63 writer in prose and verse author
Harry C Adams 24 artist landscape and animal
Lilly Farmer 26 general servant

Address:
Bracken Homes, Cranleigh

Josie

 

[josie7644]

1891

John Chayton (sic) Adams 50 artist landscape
Mary Francis Adams 53
Margaret Jou (sic) C Adams 19 artist flowers - can't quite make out her middle name
Henry Clayton Adams 14
Sarah Portlock 20

Address: Brackenhurst, Cranleigh

Josie

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Josie,

Thank you very much.

artist landscape and animal

:2fun:

That would be Margaret Joan...

I think this must be the one:

Deaths Jun 1917
Adams Mary F 79 Kingston 2a 668

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave


The Times, Monday, Jun 11, 1917; pg. 1; Issue 41501; col A
DEATHS
CLAYTON ADAMS.-On the 3rd inst., at Hampton,
MARY FRANCES, widow of J. CLAYTON ADAMS,
Artist, of Ewhurst, Surrey, and daughter of the late
Martin Farquhar Tupper, F.R.S., aged 79.


cheers
cp

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

Thanks for that. I did have the right one.

Regards,

Dave