John DAVIDSON born Staffs

[horse]

Possible..

Matilda Poole
Birth Date1852
Birth Place New South Wales
Registration Year 1852
Registration Place Brisbane, Ipswich, Moreton Bay (County of Stanley) New South Wales Australia
Father George F Poole
Mother Mary A
Volume NumberV1852668 56

Tree has these for parents..

"George Frederick POOLE
1823–1853

Mary Ann "Sarah" ROPER
1829–1915"

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

That helps.

Passenger list - I added the Sarah Ann/Mary Ann ??
ROPER Sarah 19 Sarah Ann/Mary Ann ??

So a sister or half-sister of Emma and Thomas. That means aunt has to be the mother of George Frederick Poole.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

POOLE GEORGE 790/1853 V1853790 110 AGE 30


I can't find the Poole - Roper marriage.

 

[horse]

Emma and Thomas look like full siblings with mother as Elizabeth Haward.. Mary Ann [Sarah] also a full sibling.. Not sure how the trees get half siblings?

Geoff

 

[horse]

I can't find the Poole - Roper marriage.

Do you mean George F to Mary Ann?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Do you mean George F to Mary Ann?

Geoff

Yes, Geoff.

There is some issue unsorted between Wigg and Haward.

Death 1917/C0386 Noble Emma - James Roper - Elizabeth Wigg

Dave

 

[horse]

I can't find the marriage, but the tree has..

"Marriage 24 May 1849 Brisbane, Qld, Australia
Mary Ann "Sarah" ROPER"

Geoff

 

[horse]

Yes, Geoff.

There is some issue unsorted between Wigg and Haward.

Ah! For the half sibling 'thing'. Trees have her maiden name as Wigg.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Ah! For the half sibling 'thing'. Trees have her maiden name as Wigg.

Geoff

Thanks Geoff.

About four months after arriving. Should be in NSW index as Moreton Bay. I can't see it.

I don't have any details in my tree showing maiden name is Wigg and a marriage to make her name Haward.

Carrie's aunt - so one generation above Carrie, Thomas, Emma and Sarah/Mary.

 

[horse]

If correct, looks OK unless 2nd marriage.

Elizabeth Haward
Marriage Date 06 Sep 1826
Marriage Place Little Glemham, Suffolk
Spouse James Roper
FHL Film Number952985

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Son James age 23 in 1849.

c. 8 Oct 1826 Theberton, Suffolk - Elizabeth Haward


Perhaps there is no second marriage. What if Elizabeth was born before her parents married. Father = Neriah Wigg and Mother = Elizabeth Haward.

Dave

 

[horse]

Son James age 23 in 1849.

James Neriah Roper..

Not worked it out yet, but there is this. Alleged parents of Elizabeth Haward.

"Neriah Wigg
1766–1854

Elizabeth Haward
1753–1827"

Geoff

EDIT: It may not be as confusing as some have made out..

 

[horse]

Going for a while, Dave..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

It's possible George's father is the Rev. George Poole [Wesleyan] who died in 1856 age 77.

NSW index Death 1411/1856 POOLE GEORGE - GEORGE - ELLEN - PADDINGTON * 21 Jul

There is a suburb of Paddington in Sydney and Brisbane.


Marriage 23 Jun 1870/B02995 Thomas Curphey Thomas - Poole Matilda

The Brisbane Courier (Qld.) - Thu 7 Jul 1870 p.2
MARRIAGES
CURPHEY - POOLE.-On the 23rd June, at Leichhardt-street, by the Rev. M. H. Parkinson, Thomas Curphey, of Liverpool, to Matilda, only daughter of the late George Poole, of Brisbane.

The Telegraph (Brisbane, Qld.) - Thu 11 Nov 1915 p.6
DEATHS
POOLE.-On the 9th of November, 1915, at Bowen terrace, Mary Ann, widow of the late George Poole, and mother of Mrs. T. Curphy. Private interment.

 

[DaveHam9]

Baptisms in England for George junior about 1823 with Father= George and Mother= Ann, Rhoda, Amelia, Sarah, Mary, Agnes, Elizabeth, Elizabeth

Deaths in Qld. for 2x Elizabeth Poole, 1x Mary and 1x Sarah but can only eliminate Mary. I can't find anything in Trove for the others.


Bap V18515 56/1851 NOBLE ELIZABETH A - WILLIAM A - EMMA
Baptisms in the Parish of Moreton Bay in the County of Stanley 1851
Elizabeth Alice - William Alfred & Emma Noble Abode: Brisbane Quality or Profession: Baker When Born: January 16th 1851 When Baptised: February 4th 1851 By whom the Ceremony was performed: George Poole [Wesleyan]

 

[DaveHam9]

I expected to find some sort of bio for Rev. George Poole but I get one born Ireland who ended up in Canada.

Or an RC priest in Dorchester.

We know 'Aunt Poole' died after about 1869. Elizabeth Alice said to be 18 at the time of the journey.

 

[DaveHam9]

Bap POOLE GEORGE D B 4/1850 V18504 56 GEORGE F - MARY A

Only the two Poole births in NSW index with Father= George.

 

[DaveHam9]

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/60146797

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12950794
The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Wed 30 Nov 1853 Page 5
MARRIED
On the 28th instant, by the Rev. Dr. Fullerton, Mary,
daughter of the Rev. George Poole, to Peter Alfred
Stoneman, of Salisbury.

Out of luck with mother's name.

Death STONEMAN MARY 13398/1890 UNKNOWN UNKNOWN - WATERLOO

Death STONEMAN PETER 854/1883 AGE 69 YEARS DIED SYDNEY - SYDNEY