John & Edward NANCARROW

[DaveHam9]

John Nancarow & Elizabeth Webber
1 Dec 1782 Illogan, Cornwall
Batch: M052801

Not on FreeREG

Looking for the children of John & Elizabeth. Also their deaths/burials.

Also looking for the father of this Edward.

Edward NANCARROW & Anne MORE
28 Mar 1824 Illogan, Cornwall
Batch: M052801

Thanks,

Dave

 

[emeltee]

According to the Cornwall opc database there were two children born in Illogan to a John and Elizabeth after the marriage date of 1782

John bapt. 20 July 1783
William bapt 9 Aug 1793

Two possible baptisms for Edward

1799 Redruth John Elizabeth
1804 Illogan Edward and Elizabeth

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Emeltee.

Years ago I was given a bit of info with no source.

Four children - the two you found plus an Elizabeth and an Edward - no dates or places.

Dave

 

[emeltee]

Just found a Richard 21 Aug 1791

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Emeltee.

We may not be able to connect that Edward to John & Elizabeth.

Dave

 

[emeltee]

Unless, of course, John and Elizabeth moved to Redruth before 1799

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Don't know why I've marked my tree with deaths for John and Elizabeth as 'after 1802' when I had not entered any dates for the four children I had.

Just one of many puzzles in Cornwall 1780 - 1810 in my tree.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriages Jun Qtr 1847
Nancarrow John Redruth 9 306
MATHEWS Jane Redruth 9 306

Death Reg# 3173
NANCARROW John
Age: 31 ---> b. 1824
Father: Edward
Mother:
Birth Place: CORN
Death Place:
Year: 1855
Reg Place: Victoria


Looking for a baptism finds this one

John c. 25 Dec 1824 Redruth, Cornwall
Died 1 Oct 1826 ?
Edward NANCARROW & Anne
Batch: C053412

Edward & Anne MORE/MOORE ??

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

John b. 1824 +/- 5 Cornwall father = Edward --> only one found so far


Deaths Sep Qtr 1839
Nancarrow Ann Redruth 9 135

Is that Ann nee MORE and is this Edward in 1841 with son John who died in Victoria?

1841
Piece: HO107/143/15 Place: Penwith -Cornwall ED: 4
Civil Parish: Redruth Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 20 Page: 32
Address: Lean's Row
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
NANCARROW Edward M 40 Copper Miner Cornwall
NANCARROW John M 15 Copper Miner Cornwall
NANCARROW Thomas M 14 Tin Miner Cornwall
NANCARROW Mary Ann F 11 Cornwall
NANCARROW Eliza F 6 Cornwall
NANCARROW Edward M 4 Cornwall

 

[emeltee]

The burial of John on 1 Oct 1826 is on FreeReg2 and the only ref I can find to Edward's marriage gives Ann's surname as More however there is a baptism on Cornwall opc for an Ann Moore in Redruth in 1796, daughter of Richard and Dorithy (their spelling).

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Emeltee.

There is this one.

Ann c. 12 Dec 1802 Redruth, Cornwall
Thomas MOORE & Jennifer
Batch: C053411


First son John and 2nd son Thomas.

County Cornwall
Place Redruth
Church name St Uny
Register type Phillimore's Transcripts
Marriage date 26 Aug 1793
Groom forename Thomas
Groom surname MOORE
Bride forename Jenifer
Bride surname CARBIS
Register note
Transcriber notes

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

A bit more from John's death certificate in Victoria.

"John died 3rd May 1855, Ballarat, aged 31, of shock from falling into a waterhole. 7 years in Victoria. Married in Redruth Cornwall at age 22 to Jane Matthews." Mother's name not recorded.

I'll resume this tomorrow.

Dave

 

[emeltee]

The John Nancarrow/Jane Mathews marriage took place June 1847 Redruth vol 9 p 306

Emeltee

 

[emeltee]

1841 HO107/143/15
Lean's Row, Redruth

Edward Nancarrow 40 Copper miner
John nancarrow 15 Copper miner
Thomas 14 Tin miner
Maryann 11
Eliza 6
Edward 4
All born Cornwall

Emeltee

 

[emeltee]

The only death I can find for Ann Nancarrow is 1839 in Redruth aged 37 residence Tolgus.

The age 37 gives a birth year of 1802 which fits with the baptism of Ann daughter of Thomas and Jennifer.

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Emeltee.

Can't connect John b. abt 1825 and who died in Australia to Edward and Ann MORE and can't connect that Edward to John & Elizabeth WEBBER.

This is a real problem

John c. 25 Dec 1824 Redruth, Cornwall
Died 1 Oct 1826
Edward NANCARROW & Anne
Batch: C053412

No other record on FS for a John son of Edward and Anne yet there is one in the 1841 census aged 15. They would not have named another son John until after 1 Oct 1826 yet details from death certificate and age in census point to one being born before 1 Oct 1826.

Dave.

 

[DaveHam9]

No age.

John NANCARROW
Steerage passenger
RAJAH 1847 from London via Plymouth 28 May 1847
Captain Charles Ferguson
arrived Port Adelaide on 24 Sept 1847


I can't find the date of the 1847 marriage. Death certificate has John as 22 at time of his marriage.

 

[DaveHam9]

Something is not right.

Marriages Mar Qtr 1851
Nancarrow Edward Redruth 9 276
Stephens Elizabeth Redruth 9 276 * Widow

Date not on FS or FreeREG

1851
Piece: HO107/1915 Place: Redruth -Cornwall ED: 1c
Civil Parish: Illogan Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 425 Page: 29 Schedule: 103
Address: Tregajorran Village
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
NANCARROW Edward Head Mar M 50 Copper Miner Cornwall - Illogan
NANCARROW Elizabeth Wife Mar F 38 Cornwall - St Agnes
NANCARROW John S. Son M 15 Copper Miner Cornwall - St Agnes * who ?
NANCARROW Edward Son M 14 Copper Miner Cornwall - Illogan * 4 in 1841
STEPHENS Jane Stpdau - F 13 Scholar Cornwall - St Agnes
STEPHENS Mary Stpdau - F 11 Scholar Cornwall - Illogan
STEPHENS Elizabeth Stpdau F 9 Scholar Cornwall - Illogan
STEPHENS Ann Stpdau - F 7 Scholar Cornwall - Illogan


Is this the death of the Edward in above census?

Deaths Jun 1859
NANCARROW Edward Liskeard 5c 40

Death 1859 - 26 Apr - Calstock, residence Gunnislake - Edward Nancarrow Age 61

 

[DaveHam9]

Two possible baptisms for Edward

1799 Redruth John Elizabeth
1804 Illogan Edward and Elizabeth

Which one have we got and can we find the other one in 1841 and 1851?

Only one found in 1841.

Deaths Sep Qtr 1838
Nancarrow Edward Redruth 9 128

Age at death? Which one is that? Not in FreeREG.

 

[DaveHam9]

So many things don't fit.

Marriages Jun Qtr 1847
Nancarrow John Redruth 9 306
MATHEWS Jane Redruth 9 306


John NANCARROW
Steerage passenger
RAJAH 1847 from London via Plymouth May 28 1847 -
Captain Charles Ferguson
arrived Port Adelaide on Sept 24 1847


ABOUKIR 1847
from London And Plymouth left Plymouth, UK on June 1st
Arrived Port Adelaide on Saturday September 4th, 1847
Jane Matthews