John Ferris.

[leefer]

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/652340/FERRIS, J

I am wondering if any of you good people can help me with this one.

On the back of the wills thread i am baffled by John who as you can see got even closer to safety than Gwen's relly.

Joining up in Bittern i am convinced he is a relly of mine...my Ferris family all came from that area and i am wondering if you could link him with my Ferris family in the Bittern area...my dad told me that his dad lost a brother...was it him

Ironically he died serving in the Wiltshire Regiment....after the Hants regiment was almost totally wiped out.

Any help would be great...

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Lee,

If he is the one who died 19 Sept 1918 in Egypt, his place of bith is Harptree Glos, residence Bitterne Hants.

 

[davelambert271]

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about John Ferris




Name:
John Ferris

Birth Place:
Harptree, Glos

Residence:
Bitterne, Hants

Death Date:
19 Sep 1918

Death Location:
Egypt

Enlistment Location:
Southampton

Rank:
Private

Regiment:
Duke of Edinburgh's (Wiltshire Regiment)

Battalion:
1/4th (T.F.) Battalion

Number:
203995

Type of Casualty:
Killed in action

Theatre of War:
Egyptian Theatre

Comments:
Formerly 1767, Hampshire Regiment.

 

[leefer]

Thanks to you both...is there any way you can check the census for him....wondered if he had a brother called Wallace Ferris...my grandad.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Lee,


1911
Civil parish Itchen - RD Stoneham - Sub Rd South Stoneham

Silvanus Ferris age 55 born Hockworthy Devon
Annie wife age 51 born Ferle Sussex
John son age 14 born East Harptree Somerset
Wallace son age 13 born East Harptree
Frank son age 10 born Southampton

Class RG14
Piece 6031
Schedule no 18

 

[horse]

This may be him in 1911

Civil Parish: Itchen
County: Hampshire
Street Address: No 59 Victoria Road, Woolston, Hants
RD: South Stoneham
Sub-RD: St Mary Extra
ED: 9
RG14; Piece: 6031

Silvanus Ferris 55 [Grocer]
Annie Ferris 51
John Ferris 14 [Son, East Harptree, Somerset, assisting in business]
Wallace Ferris 13
Frank Ferris 10

Edit: Ooops! Julie has already found this...

 

[horse]

1901 transcribed as Terris

Civil Parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Southampton
County: Hampshire
RD: Southampton
Sub-RD: Southampton
ED: 25
RG13; Piece: 1057; Folio: 12; Page: 16

Silvanur J Terris 45
Annie Terris 41
Frank Ferris Terris 1
John Terris 4
Wallace Terris 3
Herbert Derington 19
Mary Arnold 19

 

[leefer]

This may be him in 1911

Civil Parish: Itchen
County: Hampshire
Street Address: No 59 Victoria Road, Woolston, Hants
RD: South Stoneham
Sub-RD: St Mary Extra
ED: 9
RG14; Piece: 6031

Silvanus Ferris 55 [Grocer]
Annie Ferris 51
John Ferris 14 [Son, East Harptree, Somerset, assisting in business]
Wallace Ferris 13
Frank Ferris 10

Bingo:biggrin:

Julie and Dave found me Sylvanus a while back...he was my great grandad and had a pub in East Harptree....Julie if you remember you found me his will....he was a real character who married three times...Annie being my Great Grandma.
Wallace was my grandad.

My late dad heard a little about John but in the family he was called Jack(a common name for people named John)

For me this is a great feeling....knowing he was my blood and how the family must have been dismayed that he was a couple of weeks away from making the wars end.

 

[horse]

This looks like his birth..

Births Q2 1897
Ferris John
Clutton
5c 477

Geoff

 

[leefer]

Thanks Horse...Clutton is about 10 miles South of Bristol...near to East Harptree.

Sylvanus Ferris my great grandad was born in Hockworthy Devon...a lovely little village and if i remember Davelambert found his parents also....a blacksmith family for generations i think that Sylvanus was the first one to leave the village....and did well for himself by all accounts.

Lost my copies of the Hockworthy descendants which is annoying as i think they went back to 1799

If you could refresh them it would be good

 

[horse]

Hi Lee

1861
Civil Parish: Hockworthy
County: Devon
RD: Tiverton
Sub-RD: Bampton
ED: 8
RG 9; Piece: 1482; Folio: 82; Page: 12

John Ferris 38 [b. Hockworthy, blacksmith]
Elizabeth Ferris 31 [b. Halberton]
Charles H Ferris 6
Silvenus J Ferris 5
Frances E Ferris 4
Martha S Ferris 1

Offspring all b. Hockworthy

Geoff

 

[horse]

1841

John, Sylvanus' father transcribed as Terris

Civil Parish: Hockworthy
Hundred: Bampton
County: Devon
RD: Tiverton and Dulverton
Sub-RD: Bampton
HO107; Piece: 202; Book: 11

Sarah Terris 45 [b. Hockworthy, shopkeeper]
John Terris 15 [ do, blacksmith]
Francis Terris 40 [ do, {In the female column}]

 

[leefer]

Hi Lee

1861
Civil Parish: Hockworthy
County: Devon
RD: Tiverton
Sub-RD: Bampton
ED: 8
RG 9; Piece: 1482; Folio: 82; Page: 12

John Ferris 38 [b. Hockworthy, blacksmith]
Elizabeth Ferris 31 [b. Halberton]
Charles H Ferris 6
Silvenus J Ferris 5
Frances E Ferris 4
Martha S Ferris 1

Offspring all b. Hockworthy

Geoff

Any info for Johns parents horse?
John would be my great,great grandad

 

[horse]

See Post #12, I think that is him with his mother..

 

[leefer]

1841

John, Sylvanus' father transcribed as Terris

Civil Parish: Hockworthy
Hundred: Bampton
County: Devon
RD: Tiverton and Dulverton
Sub-RD: Bampton
HO107; Piece: 202; Book: 11

Sarah Terris 45 [b. Hockworthy, shopkeeper]
John Terris 15 [ do, blacksmith]
Francis Terris 40 [ do, {In the female column}]

Any age for Sylvanus horse?

Edit...i am blind 40....so what year horse was he born...i am lost

 

[leefer]

So my 3x grandad was born in 1801....got there thanks so much.

I will visit Hockworthy one day to see the local church where records maybe even earlier.

Thanks horse and you all.

 

[davelambert271]

Post 12

I think Frances (as on FMP) was the youngest (under 15), not 40 and therefor is not Sarah's husband

I had found this census thinking it was the favourite to be Henry's family (see thread Ferris in Australia ) as Sarah was on her own with children of a similar age to Henry. Can't prove it though.

dave

 

[davelambert271]

so if John is yours, is this him in 1851, with the Frances subject of previous post. Sally's name is a bad image, could it be sarah and was her maiden name Frost
1951 HO107-1890-97-17

 

[horse]

Post 12

I think Frances (as on FMP) was the youngest (under 15), not 40 and therefor is not Sarah's husband

I had found this census thinking it was the favourite to be Henry's family (see thread Ferris in Australia ) as Sarah was on her own with children of a similar age to Henry. Can't prove it though.

dave

I would tend to agree that Francis/es is not Sarah's husband and could be any relative, bearing in mind that it is 1841 and not always found in the correct order... One thing is clear though, the image shows her in the female column and there are 2 digits see excerpt.

 

[horse]

Just checked the 1841 transcription again and found this...

Quote:
Name: Francis Terris
[Francis Ferris]
[Frances Elizabeth Ferris]
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
[Abt 1828] End Quote.

Geoff