John Green (1806) to Elizabeth ?

[gwenythgreen]

Hi All

I am looking for the marriage of John Green born 1806 to Elizabeth ? born about 1801 at Kineton Their first son Thomas was born about 1826, next was Edward Green abt 1830 Kineton (hubby's ancestor) Then came David about 1835 then John 1838.

I am hoping to find Elizabeth's maiden name and also John and Elizabeth's parents names.

Thank you

Gwen

 

[davelambert271]

Hi
IGI
John Green married Elizabeth Grace - 5 Feb 1824 Kineton, Warks

dave

 

[gwenythgreen]

Hi
IGI
John Green married Elizabeth Grace - 5 Feb 1824 Kineton, Warks

dave

Hi Dave

Thank You, I have been looking for that for a few weeks with no luck.

Gwen

 

[davelambert271]

Hi Gwenyth

I don't know if you found the 1851 census.
the birth place has been mistranscribed.

1851 Wales Census
about David Green
Name: David Green
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Winston, Warwickshire, England SHOULD BE KINETON
Civil Parish or Township: Ruabon
Ecclesiastical parish: Ruabon
Town: Bellan
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Wrexham
Sub-registration district: Ruabon
ED, institution, or vessel: 2c
Household schedule number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
John Green '66' (46) Kineton, Occ looks like Drainer, I thought Trainer, but if you compare the D with Davids initial, they look the same
Edward Green 20 Kineton Labourer
David Green 14 Kineton
John Green 13 Kineton
Henry Green 17 Nephew Kineton
Eleanor Berkley 21 House servant

living Keepers Old House, Bellan

dave

 

[gwenythgreen]

Hi Gwenyth

I don't know if you found the 1851 census.
the birth place has been mistranscribed.

1851 Wales Census
about David Green
Name: David Green
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Winston, Warwickshire, England SHOULD BE KINETON
Civil Parish or Township: Ruabon
Ecclesiastical parish: Ruabon
Town: Bellan
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Wrexham
Sub-registration district: Ruabon
ED, institution, or vessel: 2c
Household schedule number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
John Green '66' (46) Kineton, Occ looks like Drainer, I thought Trainer, but if you compare the D with Davids initial, they look the same
Edward Green 20 Kineton Labourer
David Green 14 Kineton
John Green 13 Kineton
Henry Green 17 Nephew Kineton
Eleanor Berkley 21 House servant

living Keepers Old House, Bellan

dave

Hi Dave

Thank you for that, That is the one I could not find,

Gwen

 

[davelambert271]

Hi Gwenyth
I noticed on 1841 census, Elizabeth was born out of the county of Warwickshire. On IGI, there is one Elizabeth born on 24 Jun 1801 at Cheshunt, Hertfordshire and one Betty born in Gloucestershire.
Elizabeths parents are Henry and Elizabeth
There is a JNO Green born 28 Nov 1802 in Kineton, parents JNO and yet another Elizabeth.
There are an aweful lot of Green's born in Kineton
dave

 

[gwenythgreen]

Hi Gwenyth
I noticed on 1841 census, Elizabeth was born out of the county of Warwickshire. On IGI, there is one Elizabeth born on 24 Jun 1801 at Cheshunt, Hertfordshire and one Betty born in Gloucestershire.
Elizabeths parents are Henry and Elizabeth
There is a JNO Green born 28 Nov 1802 in Kineton, parents JNO and yet another Elizabeth.
There are an aweful lot of Green's born in Kineton
dave

Hi Dave

They are certainly confusing, It looks as though Elizabeth is missing from the cencus in 1851 and I have found a death for an Elizabeth in 1842, I have also found a John Green born 1804 Kineton in 1861 census at Eyton with a Jane Green as wife, is this his new wife? what do you think? I think it maybe an idea to get the death and marriage certs to see what they say.

Gwen

 

[davelambert271]

Hi Gwenyth
I would say you have found him in 1861 as John junior is with John and his new wife Jane..
I think your death of Elizabeth could be OK as John was a Widower in 1851.
dave

 

[gwenythgreen]

Hi Gwenyth
I would say you have found him in 1861 as John junior is with John and his new wife Jane..
I think your death of Elizabeth could be OK as John was a Widower in 1851.
dave

Hi Dave

Thank you for that, It is good to have your help and opinion you are a great help.

Gwen

 

[davelambert271]

Hi
I forgot to mention.. I presume you saw John on the 1871 and 1881 census returns as well as 1861
dave

 

[gwenythgreen]

Hi
I forgot to mention.. I presume you saw John on the 1871 and 1881 census returns as well as 1861
dave

Hi Dave

Yes thank you, it looks like he died before the 1891 census, John certainly went through a big change in fortunes when he married Jane from farm labourer or Drainer to farmer employing servants and labourers including his own Grandson who is described as a servant in '61 and '71 census, an interesting story there I think.

Gwen

 

[gwenythgreen]

Hi Gwenyth
I noticed on 1841 census, Elizabeth was born out of the county of Warwickshire. On IGI, there is one Elizabeth born on 24 Jun 1801 at Cheshunt, Hertfordshire and one Betty born in Gloucestershire.
Elizabeths parents are Henry and Elizabeth
There is a JNO Green born 28 Nov 1802 in Kineton, parents JNO and yet another Elizabeth.
There are an aweful lot of Green's born in Kineton
dave

Hi

I have now got Johns marriage cert to his second wife Jane Jones born 1829, her father is Samuel place of residence Park Eyton. Johns father was John also a farmer I cannot find him so maybe he is deceased, I would think he lived in Kineton, Warwickshire and his dob around 1775, no sign of him on 1841 census for Kineton though,

Gwen