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John GREEN

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NSW Marriage V1855148 43B/1855 GREEN JAMES - ALCOCK ANNE M - NB= CofE Monaro/Maneroo

NSW Death 4353/1906 GREEN JAMES - JOHN - BEMBOKA * 2 Apr * age 73
 
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John Green was a convict so was James born in NSW or England?

John GREEN 'Hadlow' 1818 Ticket of Leave Warwick [4/4063; Reel 909]
John GREEN 'Hadlow' 1818 Ticket of Leave District: Argyle; Born: Darby; Trade: flax swingler; Tried: Warwick assizes [4/4096; Reel 922]

John GREEN 'Hadlow' 1818 Recommended Conditional Pardon 23 Sep 1834 - [4/4478; Reel 797 Page 027]

John GREEN 'Hadlow' 1818 Conditional Pardon 23 Sep 1834 - [4/4433; Reel 775 Page 263]


John Green married ?? Several possible marriages in NSW index.
 
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John Green, one of 150 convicts transported on the Hadlow, August 1818.
Sentence details: Convicted at Lancaster (Liverpool Boro) Assizes for a term of 14 years on 21 March 1818.
Vessel: Hadlow.
Date of Departure: August 1818.
Place of Arrival: New South Wales.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 88, Class and Piece Number HO11/3, Page Number 80
 

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JOHN GREEN

John Green was born to William and Nancy Green (nee Hayley) at Webheath, Worcestershire in 1789 and had been in the Colony for 70 years when he died at Lyttleton (Bemboka), New South Wales on 24th April, 1888. His Death Certificate states that he was aged 99 years.

John Green arrived in Australia in December, 1818 aboard the convict ship "Hadlow". He was listed on the indent as:
"John Green, Horsebreaker"

A report of his trial at Warwick Assizes, 28th March, 1818 states:
"John Seeley, - William Hawthorn and John Green charged with stealing three sheep and 2 lambs the property of John Rowney at Inkborough; a lamb at Feckenham, the property of Joseph Jackson and two ewe sheep and one ewe lamb, the property of John Boulton. The said sheep were sold at Solihull Fair. "

The 1820 Muster of New South Wales tells us that John Green was:
"... at Government labour, Western Road; Castlereagh and Evans.

We next hear of John Green when he applied for a Ticket of Freedom on 23rd September, 1834. If granted, this meant that a one-time convict was released from bondage and could hire himself out for wages. John Green seems to have done something quite different however, because on 4th March, 1836 some 18 months after his application, he was granted a Licence..
"…to depasture sheep, cattle and stock upon vacant Crown Lands beyond the limits of location "

John Green's licence applied to the area known as the Maneroo. The following reports from John Lambie, District Commissioner of Lands for the Maneroo region show how John Green began his long association with the property which became known as "Doolondondoo. Please note the variations of the spelling of this property.

"March 4, 1836
"John Green grazier, Maneroo, single; to depasture, in own care, 200 head of cattle, 5 horses."

October 2-3, 1839:
Doolendoo: Name of person holding Licence; John Green. 6 residents; 1 slab hut; I stock yard; 49 acres wheat; 300 cattle; 9 horses; no sheep, estimated produce in butter and cheese - 5 cwt; Estimated extent of run - 5 square miles; Granite range, high and barren. Watered b running stream. Thickforest and scrub. Estimated miles from nearest station.

"October 9, 1846
Dolendendoo: John Green; 5 residents; 1 hut; 1 dairy; 1 barn; 2 stock yards. 7 acres wheat, 8 acres oats; 500 cattle. 4 horses; 1200 butter (no indication whether this was lbs or whatever,-) extent of run - 4 square miles; granite ranges; high and stony; stream; thickly wooded; 6 miles to adjoining station.,

"June 18, 1847:
Dolendelo: John Green, 4 residents, 3 huts; 1stock yard; 12 acres wheat; 6 acres oats, 500 cattle, 43 horses; 1000 lbs butter; extent of run - 4 square miles; granite; stream; thickly wooded; 4 miles to adjoining station.

The Census Return of John Lambie, esq., Commissioner of Crown Lands, District of Maneroo, forwarded to the Honourable, the Colonial Secretary ina letter dated 8th March, 1848 states:
"John Green - Dolende , 2 males above 12 years; 1 female above 12 years; 1 male in bond."


John Green married Ellen O'Brien at Cooma in 1854 and there is a Death Certificate for Ellen Green dated 17th February. 1859. John Green is also listed as purchasing 320 acre on Brown Mountain Creek for 320 pounds in
the year 1863. John Green died in 1888.
 

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Thanks gibbo.

There must have been an earlier marriage but no mention there. ?

"March 4, 1836 John Green grazier, Maneroo, single; ...

James born abt 1833 ??
 

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John Green
BIRTH 1789
Webheath, Redditch Borough, Worcestershire, England
DEATH 26 Apr 1888 (aged 98–99)
Bemboka, Bega Valley Shire, New South Wales, Australia
BURIAL
Bemboka Cemetery
Bemboka, Bega Valley Shire, New South Wales, Australia
MEMORIAL ID 204303826 · View Source

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Ellen O'Brien Green
1816–1859 (m. 1854)

Children
James Green
1833–1908

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/204303826/john-green
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Ellen O'Brien Green
BIRTH 1816
DEATH 17 Feb 1859 (aged 42–43)
Cooma, Snowy Monaro Regional Council, New South Wales, Australia
BURIAL
Nimmitabel Pioneer Cemetery
Nimmitabel, Snowy Monaro Regional Council, New South Wales, Australia
MEMORIAL ID 209735690 · View Source

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/209735690/ellen-green
 

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James Green
BIRTH 9 Sep 1833
Lane Cove West, Lane Cove Municipality, New South Wales, Australia
DEATH 2 Apr 1908 (aged 74)
Bemboka, Bega Valley Shire, New South Wales, Australia
BURIAL
Bemboka Cemetery
Bemboka, Bega Valley Shire, New South Wales, Australia
PLOT Church of England Section
MEMORIAL ID 204303798 · View Source
 

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Thanks gibbo.

I just clicked on that.

Death 4353/1906 GREEN JAMES JOHN - BEMBOKA * 2 Apr 1906

Southern Star (Bega, NSW) - Wed 4 Apr 1906 p.2
Mr. James Green, a very old resident of Bemboka, who had been ailing for a long time, died at his residence on Monday, aged 73. Some months back deceased under-went an operation in Sydney, but received only temporary benefit, and had been lingering ever since. The funeral takes place to-day, and will be conducted by Mr. E. Zingel.

The memorial has 1908. ?
 

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Thanks gibbo.

I just clicked on that.

Death 4353/1906 GREEN JAMES JOHN - BEMBOKA * 2 Apr 1906

Southern Star (Bega, NSW) - Wed 4 Apr 1906 p.2
Mr. James Green, a very old resident of Bemboka, who had been ailing for a long time, died at his residence on Monday, aged 73. Some months back deceased under-went an operation in Sydney, but received only temporary benefit, and had been lingering ever since. The funeral takes place to-day, and will be conducted by Mr. E. Zingel.

The memorial has 1908. ?
So this James John Green is the one your following?
 

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