John Henry & Jane NICHOLLS

[Lyndak]

My name is Lynda Kibblewhite. Jane Clucas was my GG Grandmother. I was really interested to read all the information you have here and I will share it with my mother. Elizabeth Warren’s parents were Hannah O’Neil born, Hodges married and Warren and George Warren. Both were convicts. Hannah was transported with her two Hodges sons. Her crime was child stealing. Hodges was also transported. Hannah was sent to Bathurst to work for the Peisley family. She had three stints at the Parramatta Female factory when she receiv3d her ticket of leave from Samuel Marsden she to”d the Factory she was a widow and made a home with George Warren, also a convict, at Goulburn. Elizabeth was Jane Clucas’ mother. She married John Nicholls who was a bricklayer. There are still several of his buildings standing in Parkes. One of their daughters,Minnie Anne was my Great Grandmother. She married Walter Knox Andrews. My Grandmother was Zena May Andrews. She married William Joseph Terrance Roach and had my Mother Zena Isabelle and later made a second marriage to Rodolph Thomas Morrison of Greenlands, Alectown near Parkes. They had two children, John Thomas and Jenny Anne. Neith John nor Jenny had children. Rodolph, known as Johnny, Zena May and Jenny are buried at Alectown. Zena Isabelle Roach married William John White of Nyngan. They returned to live in Parkes in 1966 when Johnny passed away. They had three children, Lynda Anne, Alison Zena and David John. Lynda is married to Ian Craig Kibblewhite and have three children! Timothy Craig, Hayley Anne and Neil Bradley. Hayley is married to Craig Watman. The have two boys, William Thomas and Simon Thomas. Neil is married to Katie Rickman an$ the have three children, Aurora , Nova Delilah and Sullivan Jack. Alison Zena is married to David John Quinn. They have two daughters Yvette and Monique. Monique and Dale Tillman have one daughter, Ella. David Johnis married to Natalie Rosier. They have three children Jacob, Pepper(Rebecca) and Emma.
John Clucas was a gold miner and came from Ballarat to Parkes. He was born in Ballarat and had one sister Emma.

 

[Lyndak]

John Henry Nicholls born 1859 in Ballarat, Victoria
Mother was Emily Tippett. No first name for father but surname is Nicholls.
Emma Jane Nicholls born 1858 Ballarat, Victoria.
Mother Emily Tippett. Father . Nicholls

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks for all the details. I've been away from home for a week.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

NSW Death 1851/1922 NICHOLLS JOHN H - JOHN H - HARRIET - PARKES * 18 Mar

So both parents there are wrong ??

Vic. Death 1880 NICHOLLS Harriet 42 CALLEN James - Harriet UNK b. U d. Vic. #4753 Spouse NICHOLLS, John

Something is not right somewhere. A John H Nicholls married to Harriet. So 2x John H Nicholls ??


??
Marriages Dec Qtr 1854
Matthews Jane Truro 5c 346
Nichols Nicholas Henry Truro 5c 346
Rosewall Samuel Truro 5c 346
Tippet Emily Truro 5c 346

Arrival 1854 - 1858.

 

[DaveHam9]

Vic. Death 1906
NICHOLS Emily 73
Julia HARVEY
Tippett Hy
Ballt E
11740/1906

So far I can't find a notice in Trove.


This can't fit if age is correct.

Vic. Death 1865
NICHOLLS Nicholas 24
Mary UNKNOWN
John
CORN
8269/1865

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/112880320

A single man.

 

[DaveHam9]

Film No 5750073
Image No 46
Day Month 25-Dec
Year 1834
Parish Circuit Or Chapel Camborne
Forename Emily Jane
Surname TIPPETT
Age Or Date Of Birth
Father Forename William
Mother Forename Martha
Residence Town
Status Or Occupation Saddler
Transcriber Notes Src: Exeter BTs
Transcriber Heather Marshall

Another problem. Either the wrong baptism or parents on death reg are wrong ?? Or the 1906 death is the wrong one ?

 

[DaveHam9]

County Cornwall
Place Paul
Church name St Pol de Leon
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 784
Baptism date 02 Jun 1833
Person forename Emily
Father forename Thomas
Mother forename Julia
Father surname TIPPETT
Mother surname TIPPETT
Person abode Bussavah
Father occupation Labourer
Transcribed by Bernard White
File line number 784

1841
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQY1-SPM

1851 Emily
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG2Z-3NL

 

[DaveHam9]

Parents can only be Nicholas and Emily Tippett if father as John H and mother as Harriet on 1922 death reg are both wrong.

Age at death points to 1857 not 1859 so another issue there.

I believe the 1922 death is the right one but I have no evidence yet as to his correct parents.

 

[Lyndak]

County Cornwall
Place Paul
Church name St Pol de Leon
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 784
Baptism date 02 Jun 1833
Person forename Emily
Father forename Thomas
Mother forename Julia
Father surname TIPPETT
Mother surname TIPPETT
Person abode Bussavah
Father occupation Labourer
Transcribed by Bernard White
File line number 784

1841
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQY1-SPM

1851 Emily
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG2Z-3NL

 

[DaveHam9]

No. 4 4th March 1882 Currajong
John Henry Nicholls - Bachelor - Ballarat, Vic. - Bricklayer - 22 - Parkes - John Nicholls & Harriet Callan - Bricklayer
Jane Clucas - Spinster - Currajong, NSW - Private Life - 18 - Currajong - John Clucas & Elizabeth Warren - Miner
Married in the house of Bride's Parents Currajong According to the rites of the Wesleyan Church
The consent of John Clucas ...
Parties signed: John Henry Nicholls, Jane Clucas Witnesses: John Clucas, Susan Clucas
By me John William Moore
Particulars in columns 5, 7, 9 & 10 obtained from Church Register 2077 ... October 10th 1957

 

[DaveHam9]

According to the marriage the parents on the death reg are correct and the 1859 birth can't be correct.

I wasted my time chasing the wrong family.

 

[Lyndak]

Hi Dave. My Mother has told me Nanna’s (Minnie)father was John Nicholls. He was a gold miner who came from Victoria. Hence I believe he is John Henry Nicholls born in Ballarat in 1859 The connection of this man to Cornwall would fit given that he started life in the Victorian goldfields and then followed the gold to Parkes where he met Jane Clucas. He became a very skilled bricklayer and worked in Parkes. He also worked in Sydney when there was no work in Parkes. Some of the children were born while in Sydney. The children are Hilda b1893 Pks, May b1897 Pks, John E b1882 Pks, Ernest b 1884 Pks, Reta b 1900 Pks, Ivy b1899 Pks(I remember her), James(known as Jack) b 1885 Campelltown(Western Sydney), Violet J b1886 Newtown(Inner Sydney), Fred b1887 Campbelltown , Ethel b1888 Newtown, Minnie Anne(my Great Grandmother) b 1899 Newtown, Leila b 1907 Pks, Minnie married Walter Knox Andrews. I’ll try and send you a picture of Minnie and also Jane Clucas

 

[DaveHam9]

Sorry, but that is not possible. The father and the mother on both the marriage and the death reg would both have to be wrong. Parents and age at death do not support that 1859 birth.

 

[Lyndak]

Hi Dave. My Mother has told me Nanna’s (Minnie)father was John Nicholls. He was a gold miner who came from Victoria. Hence I believe he is John Henry Nicholls born in Ballarat in 1859 The connection of this man to Cornwall would fit given that he started life in the Victorian goldfields and then followed the gold to Parkes where he met Jane Clucas. He became a very skilled bricklayer and worked in Parkes. He also worked in Sydney when there was no work in Parkes. Some of the children were born while in Sydney. The children are Hilda b1893 Pks, May b1897 Pks, John E b1882 Pks, Ernest b 1884 Pks, Reta b 1900 Pks, Ivy b1899 Pks(I remember her), James(known as Jack) b 1885 Campelltown(Western Sydney), Violet J b1886 Newtown(Inner Sydney), Fred b1887 Campbelltown , Ethel b1888 Newtown, Minnie Anne(my Great Grandmother) b 1899 Newtown, Leila b 1907 Pks, Minnie married Walter Knox Andrews. I’ll try and send you a picture of Minnie and also Jane Clucas

 

[Lyndak]

Hi Dave. Boy do I go down some wrong tracks. I agree that John Henry Nicholls and Harriet Callen were the parents of John H Nicholls. I’ll talk to Mum Again. Maybe my wires are crossed. I can see both their deaths and that ofJHJnr. Do you know where JH Jnr was born?

 

[DaveHam9]

Obituary points to 1857 Ballarat but I can't find the birth in the index.

 

[Lyndak]

Hi Dave. Spoke to Mum today who confirmed John Henry Nicholls is buried in Parkes. She has his death certificate which I will look at when I see her in November. It should have his parents names and place of birth. Mum was very close to her Grandmother, Minnie but can’t remember any talk about her fathers relatives if he had any. She said he cam3 from Ballarat but she doesn’t know if he was born there.

 

[Lyndak]

Hi Dave. I’ve spent a few hours trawling through Victorian BDM. No luck with John Nicholls but have found four definite siblings and one possible. They are Harriet b 1863 Ballarat 6029/1863, Alfred b1861 Ballarat 20135/1861, Emmab1868 Ballarat 13634/1868, Amelia b1871 Ballarat 6987/1871(Harriet’s name is spelt Harriett on this record) and the possible Frances b1874 in Linton 2314/2874(mother recorded as Harriett Collin). I’m going to ask my brother to try looking through passenger lists but he is in Denmark at present. There is no John recorded as born at sea on the Victorian records either.

 

[Lyndak]

I forgot to say, Mum remembers Jane Clucas from when she was a child. She gave her a doll. Still struggling to get the picture of her to load.