John HOWARD & Mary LISTER

[DaveHam9]

1841
HO107 Piece/Book 71/5 Folio 10 Page 15
Civil Parish: Carlton cum Willingham
Hundred: Radfield
County: Cambridgeshire
Registration District: Linton
Sub-RD: Balsham
ED: 6
Address: Carlton Green
John Howard 30 Shoemaker Y
Elizabeth 30 N
Folio 11 Page 16
Elizabeth 10 Y
George 9 Y
Elijah 7 Y
Mary Anne 5 Y
Emma 3 Y
Susan 1 Y
/
John Chapman 25 Shoemaker Y

Deaths Sep 1841 HOWARD Elizabeth [32] Linton 14 57

BI 6 Jul 1841 Elizabeth HOWARD 33 Carlton cum Willingham, St. Peter

Looking for the marriage of John to Mary ? Lister ? * married name Taylor

Births Sep 1843 HOWARD Catharine Linton 14 75 mmn LISTER

Thanks,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Assisted to NSW
'Charlotte Jane' 1848 Sydney and/or Newcastle Reel 2135, [4/4786] Page 163; Reel 2458, [4/490
HOWARD John 40 and family
HOWARD Mary 41
HOWARD Elizabeth 18
HOWARD George 16
HOWARD Elijah 15
HOWARD Emma 12
HOWARD Susan 10
HOWARD Catherine 4
HOWARD Richard 2

Arrived 8 Oct 1848 - Reel 2458
John 40 Labourer Brinkley Cambridgeshire Richard & Mary mother living at Little Tallow [Thurlow] Suffolk CofEng Read None Good None
Mary 41 Housekeeper Weston Calvert [Colville] Cambridgeshire John & Mary Lister both dead CofEng Read None Good None

TAYLOR
Samuel 15 Labourer Weston Calvert John Taylor & Mary Howard (mother on board) father dead CofEng Read & write

 

[DaveHam9]

Death of Mary's first husband

Deaths Sep 1840 TAYLOR John [35] Linton 14 55

1841
HO107 Piece/Book 71/10 Folio 8 Page 10
Civil Parish: Weston Colville
County: Cambridgeshire
Registration District: Linton
Sub-RD: Balsham
ED: 5
Address: Finchley Gate
Mary Taylor 30 Publican Y
William 10 Y
Samuel 7 Y
Nancy 5 Y

 

[DaveHam9]

This has to be an error on the shipping record.

Catherine 4 Calton Cambridgeshire John Howard & Elizth. Webb, mother dead

Born 1843 mother has to be Mary Lister.

 

[DaveHam9]

Back to this one.

John Howard & Mary Taylor marriage 1841 - 1843. I can't find it.

 

[gibbo]

Dave i'm confused .. again

On the actual passenger list it has Samuel and Nancy as step son and step daughter and they are under Taylor, yet Susan, Catherine and richard are noted as daughters and son but also they are listed as Taylor. They are listed straight under Howard as Taylor. If Catherine was his kid why is she under Taylor on the list??

http://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.aspx?Page=NRS5316/4_4786/Charlotte Jane_ 8 Oct 1848/4_478600096.jpg&No=3

GRO isn't letting me in to check births etc
.
.

 

[DaveHam9]

Only 2x Taylor. The word 'Step' is only there twice. They are listed in order of age.

 

[horse]

John Howard & Mary Taylor marriage 1841 - 1843. I can't find it.

Checking the index manually, no obvious match for Howard/Taylor or Howard/Lister.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Dave

 

[horse]

Going for a while, Dave..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Dave

 

[gibbo]

Maybe they never officially married.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hard to know gibbo if they did or not. Both spouse had died so that was not something to not marry.

Catherine 4 Calton Cambridgeshire John Howard & Elizth. Webb, mother dead

Is that a clue that they didn't marry? Mary not listed as the mother when it could not have been Elizabeth.

 

[gibbo]

Hard to know gibbo if they did or not. Both spouse had died so that was not something to not marry.

Catherine 4 Calton Cambridgeshire John Howard & Elizth. Webb, mother dead

Is that a clue that they didn't marry? Mary not listed as the mother when it could not have been Elizabeth.

But that would mean this birth you found is wrong then??

Births Sep 1843 HOWARD Catharine Linton 14 75 mmn LISTER

 

[gibbo]

I'm still unable to get into GRO, they keep telling me my password is wrong I was going to check for a birth for Catherine Howard with mmm Webb.

 

[DaveHam9]

Catherine aged 4 on shipping record.

I think it's the right birth. No other birth in Cambs that looks a better fit.

This one lists a mmn and not blank.

Births Mar 1846 HOWARD Richard - Risbridge 12 405 mmn LESTER

 

[gibbo]

Catherine 4 Calton Cambridgeshire John Howard & Elizth. Webb, mother dead

Where did the info on Elizth Webb come from?

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriage 1829
John Atkinson TAYLOR
Mary LISTER
WESTON COLVILLE
County Cambridgeshire
Record set Boyd's Marriage Index 1538-1840

John HOWARD & Elizabeth WEBB
4 Dec 1829 Carlton Cum Willingham, Cambridge, England
Batch M130821

Elizabeth and John married in cum-Willingham - Carlton-cum-Willingham Parish Registers
Marriage 1829 Dec 4 Howard (X), John bac otp Webb, Elizabeth sp otp by banns
Witnesses: John Webb, Katherine Howard

Deaths Sep 1840 TAYLOR John [35] Linton 14 55

Deaths Sep 1841 HOWARD Elizabeth [32] Linton 14 57

 

[horse]

Find A Grave may be useful, if the DoB is correct for Catherine then the Linton Reg looks OK..

Geoff

 

[horse]

Only 2x Taylor. The word 'Step' is only there twice. They are listed in order of age.

I may be misreading the image?

But I read it as all offspring down to and including Catherine, parents = John & step Webb, mother = dead. Only Richard appears to have 'parents on board'.

So Elizabeth would have to be alive in 1843?

Geoff

EDIT: Still not totally clear, given reg details?