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John HOWAT

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19 MARRIAGES Solemnized in the District of -
No. 177 1920 10th January
John Howat - Tailor - Casino - Bachelor - Stewarton Scotland - 29 - John Howat & Mary Robertson Wyllie - Ironmonger
Cecilia Rose Jenner - Tailoress - Casino - Spinster - Tenterfield New South Wales - 25 - John Jenner & Emily Annie White - Engineer
Married at St. Peter's East Sydney [Woolloomooloo] According to the rites of the Anglican Church
Parties signed: John Howat, Cecilia R Jenner
Witnesses signed: Jean Callinan, Chas W Morgan
By me F. W. Tugwell Officiating Minister

Service Record
Name HOWAT, JOHN
Service Australian Army
Service Number N393504
Date of Birth 5 Jul 1888
Place of Birth AYRSHIRE, SCOTLAND

Date of Enlistment 23 Jan 1942
Locality on Enlistment GLEN INNES, NSW
Place of Enlistment ADAMSTOWN, NSW
Next of Kin HOWAT, CECILIA
Date of Discharge 20 Dec 1948
Rank Sergeant
Posting at Discharge 1 SUP RES DEPOT
WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
Prisoner of War No

Death 2396/1962 HOWAT JOHN - JOHN - MARY ROBERTSON - MARRICKVILLE * 2 Mar 1962


That's all I have so far. No arrival, no baptism, no census, nothing on his parents, so looking to fill those and for anything else on the two families.

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Get you started but on way to work

41 Lainshaw Street, Stewart

John Howat born 1863 Cooper born Stewart
Mary wife born 1867 Stewart
Children
Martha 1887
John 1889
Ann 1891
William 1897
All born Stewart

RG13 no page or folio on FMP
 

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Thanks Barbara.

Not Assisted to NSW or Qld. or Vic. Not unassisted to Vic.

Marriage not on FS.

Baptism not on FS.

Can't see a death for Mary in NSW or Qld. or Vic. Can't see a death for John sen in NSW or Qld. or Vic.

Unassisted to NSW ?? Several J Howat in the index with no age or year of arrival.

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HOWAT
JOHN
M
1862
616/ 17
Stewarton

WYLLIE
MARY
F
1867
616/ 32
Stewarton

Marriage

HOWAT
JOHN
WYLLIE
MARY
1887
616/ 10
Stewarton

Children

HOWAT
MARTHA ROBERTSO
F
1887
616/ 17
Stewarton

HOWAT
JOHN
M
1888
616/ 61
Stewarton
 
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John
Last name Howat
Service number 96
Rank Private
Birth year 1889
Marital status Single
Occupation Tailor
Religion Presbyterian
Age at Embarkation 26
Embarkation year 1915
Embarkation date 09 Nov 1915
Embarkation regiment/unit 8th Infantry Brigade
Unit information 31st Infantry Battalion
Unit information 2 Machine Gun Section-Head-Quarters
Departure port Melbourne, Victoria
Ship name Hmat A62 Wandilla, A41 Bakara
Enlistment date 24 Jul 1915
Address Care Of Mrs Jenner, Holman-Street
City Casino
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Next of kin's first name(s) John
Next of kin's last name Howat
Relationship Father
Next of kin address -
Next of kin city Stewarton
Next of kin state AYRSHIRE
Next of kin country SCOTLAND
Record set Australian Imperial Force Embarkation Roll 1914-1918
 

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John is in London in 1911

John Howat
Age in 1911: 22
Born: abt 1889
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Warton, Ayr, Scotland
Civil Parish: St Pancras

County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 26 Ampthill Square, St Pancras N W
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: LADIES TAILOR
Registration district: St Pancras
Registration District Number: 9
Sub-registration district: West St Pancras
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Piece: 652
 

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John's war record has a lot of detail, Dave. It is on Ancestry. Gives father's address as 17 Hodgkinson Street, Clifton Hill. Stewarton Ayr crossed out.
 

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Thanks Barbara.

I should be able to get the service record images on NAA (National Archives of Australia).

Title
HOWAT John : Service Number - 96 : Place of Birth - Ayr Scotland : Place of Enlistment - Brisbane Qld : Next of Kin - (Father) HOWAT John
Contents date range
1914 - 1920
Series number
B2455
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Control symbol
HOWAT J 96
Citation
NAA: B2455, HOWAT J 96
Item barcode
6994457
Location
Canberra
Access status
Open
Date of decision
13 Dec 2002
Physical format
PAPER FILES AND DOCUMENTS (allocated at series level)
Records authority class number
3891
Date registered
02 Aug 2002

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Clifton Hill is a Melbourne suburb.

The only death in Vic. BDM is a John Francis Howat in 1986 and that can't be John sen.

I can't see a death in Vic. that fits for Mary.

The earliest John Howat in electoral rolls in Vic. is John Francis in 1942.

John Howat 1908 Queensland Herbert

That can't be John junior born 1888.


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Mary Howat 1903 Victoria Melbourne

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John
Last name Howatt
Gender Male
Age 22
Birth year 1890
Occupation TAILOR
Departure year 1912
Departure day 31
Departure month 8
Departure port London
Destination port Sydney
Destination SYDNEY
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Destination country Australia
Ship name Banffshire
Ship official number 104587
Ship master's first name JAMES
Ship master's last name WALLACE
Shipping line SCOTTISH SHIRE LINE LD
City LONDON
Ship destination port SYDNEY
Ship destination country AUSTRALIA
Ship square feet FIFTY
Ship registered tonnage 3718
Number of passengers 46
 

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No parents with him. His parents were at Stewarton when he married so not sure if army papers correct with change of address for father? Will take another look at what it is saying
 

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Thanks Barbara.

There is a Hodgkinson Street in Clifton Hill in Victoria.

Wonder how long they stayed in Victoria.

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Thanks Barbara.

Not one on my direct line so won't be using any of my credits. Index entries with year and place will do.

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William Wyllie Head 1832 Bonnet Dresser Stewarton, Ayrshire,
Martha Wyllie Wife 1840 Bonnet Dresser Wife Stewarton, Ayrshire,
Janet Brown Wyllie Daughter 1859 Scholar Stewarton, Ayrshire
William Wyllie Son 1860 Scholar Stewarton, Ayrshire,
Jane Anne Wyllie Daughter 1862 Scholar Stewarton, Ayrshire,
Mary Wyllie Daughter 1867 - Stewarton, Ayrshire,
James Wyllie Son 1869 - Stewarton, Ayrshire,
John Wyllie Son - 1871 - Stewarton, Ayrshire,
John Russell Lodger Widower 1849 Bonnet Dresser Stewarton, Ayrshire

1871 51 Lainshaw Street, Stewarton

In 1861 Wm has different wife at Townend, Stewarton

William Wyllie Head 1831 Handloom Weaver (Cotton) Stewarton, Ayrshire,
Jane Wyllie Wife Married 1834 Embroiderer (Silk) Stewarton, Ayrshire,
Janet B Wyllie 2 1859 - Stewarton, Ayrshire,
William Wyllie Son 1861 - Stewarton, Ayrshire
 

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1871 6 High Street, Stewarton
Jean Howat Head Married 39 1832 Cooper Kilmarnock Ayrshire,
Ann Howat Wife Married 37 1834 - Kilmarnock, Ayrshire
Jane Howat Daughter - 11 1860 Scholar Stewarton Ayrshire
John Howat Son - 9 1862 Scholar Stewarton

Jean - John? Marriage on SP

HOWAT
JOHN
ANN SIMPSON/FR959 (FR959)
10/12/1853
616/
40 420
Stewarton

Is that enough, Dave?
 

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