John Ives. 10 Sept 1808. Princes Risborough, Bucks.

[p.risboy]

Son of Henry & Rebecca(nee.Smith) Ives.

A bit of a mystery, or I have him wrong. So anyone jump in, and try and sort him out please.:biggrin:

I have a marriage in Frimley, Surrey, to Floretta Bourn.

1841 census.

John Ives
Age: 35
abt 1806
Born. Surrey. ??
Civil Parish - Ash
Hundred: Godley (First Division)
County - Surrey
R.D. Farnham
Sub-reg dist - Ash

John Ives. 35
Isaac Ives. 5
Floretta Ives. 35
Eliza Ives. 9
Martha Ives. 7
Louisa Ives. 2
Ann Ives. 1 (mmn Bone ).

1851 census.

Horette Ives
[Floretta Ives]
[Floretta Bourne]
Age: 48
abt 1803
Relation: Head
Born-Eversley, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish- Hawley
Hampshire.
Reg. dist.- Farnborough
Sub-reg. dist.- Farnborough.
ED, 6b.
H.S.N. 18
Piece -1596
Folio - 108
Page Number- 6

Horette Ives 48. Widow.
Martha Ives. 17
Lucy Ives. 13
Ann Ives. 11
George Ives. 10
Henry Ives. 7
Shadrach Ives. 6. Birth reg 1844. Farnham.
Elizabeth Ives. 5
Edward Ives 31. b. Wokingham, Berks. (Lodger. Unmarried Labourer ).

I can see most baptisms in Frimley for the children, but birth search for mmn isn't going so well.

John Ives is not found in the 1851 census, but...................!!!

1861 census.

John Ives
Age: 54
abt 1807
Born - Risborough, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Kingston
Eccl. parish: All Saints
Town -Kingston
Surrey.
Address - Old Bridge Street.
Reg dist. - Kingston
Sub-registration district: Kingston
ED - 7
H.S.N. 75
Piece: 455
Folio: 168
Page. 18

John Ives. 54
Maria Ives. 37. b.Halstead, Kent.
Hannah Ives 15. b. Chelsfield, Kent.
Thomas Ives 13. b.Chelsfield, Kent
Albert Ives 12. b.Eggesford, Kent.
Henry Ives 9. b.Eggesford, Kent.


I'm reasonably sure the children are all HILLS, not IVES.

Name: John Ives. (Widowed.)
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 1854
Marriage Place: Crayford, Kent, England
Father: Henry Ives
Spouse: Maria Hills ((Widow. (maiden name is Dolley )).

Was first wife Floretta abandoned, was he transported, and declared dead by Floretta.?....or is he a bigamist.

1871 & 1881, in Maidstone.


Steve.

 

[emeltee]

Of the children with Floretta Ann has mmn Bone and Henry mmn Bourne. The rest of the children don't seem to have been registered.

I can't find John in 1851 and it looks to me that he told porkies when he married for the second time as he obviously wasn't a widower

Floretta Ives age 69 June 1874 Hartley Witney 2c 103
Burial 4 July 1874 Hawley, Southampton

Emeltee

 

[p.risboy]

Lucy & Louisa Ives are the same daughter, I think..