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The marriage at St Mary's is on film but State Library is closed. It may not list parents or age and may not even say widower.
St Patricks Cemetery
https://austcemindex.com/?cemid=785&page=2
960 inscriptions but no Joyce.
St Patricks Cemetery
https://austcemindex.com/?cemid=785&page=2
960 inscriptions but no Joyce.
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I started following the kids to see if they had any family notices that might mention "late" for their father to try and narrow dates down etc. Think i might have found another kid, Patrick and also the death of Andrew and Patrick in Bundaberg QLD.
Death registration:
Andrew Joyce
Death date:26/01/1925
Mother's name: Jane Richards
Father/parent's name: John Joyce
Registration details:1925/C/61
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/215306440
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JOYCE PATRICK 247/1845 V1845247 62 JOHN JANE
Death registration:
Patrick Joyce
Death date:06/04/1923
Mother's name: Jane Richards
Father/parent's name: John Joyce
Registration details:1923/C/1178
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/220564376
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Death registration:
Andrew Joyce
Death date:26/01/1925
Mother's name: Jane Richards
Father/parent's name: John Joyce
Registration details:1925/C/61
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/215306440
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JOYCE PATRICK 247/1845 V1845247 62 JOHN JANE
Death registration:
Patrick Joyce
Death date:06/04/1923
Mother's name: Jane Richards
Father/parent's name: John Joyce
Registration details:1923/C/1178
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/220564376
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Name: John Joice
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Mar 1841
Event Place: Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: John Joice
Spouse's Name: Jane Richie
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Father's Name: Andrew Richie
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Mar 1841
Event Place: Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: John Joice
Spouse's Name: Jane Richie
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Father's Name: Andrew Richie
Bap V1845247 62/1845 JOYCE PATRICK - JOHN - JANE
Roman Catholic Baptisms in the Parish of - in the County of - 18
Patrick - John Joyce & Jane Ritchie Abode: Surry Hills Quality or Profession: - When Born: March 17th 1845 When Baptised: April 6th By whom the Ceremony was performed: V B... ?
The baptism for Henry is on my list to try and get next week.
Roman Catholic Baptisms in the Parish of - in the County of - 18
Patrick - John Joyce & Jane Ritchie Abode: Surry Hills Quality or Profession: - When Born: March 17th 1845 When Baptised: April 6th By whom the Ceremony was performed: V B... ?
The baptism for Henry is on my list to try and get next week.
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This is curious. The name appears as Gourbelion but it should be Gourbeillon.
It's as if a clerk copied out the baptisms on the form to send to the Registrar General and didn't know how to spell the name.
Bap V1851107 68/1851 JOYCE HENRY - JOHN - JANE
Roman Catholic Baptisms in the Parish of St. James in the County of Cumberland 1851
Henry - John Joyce & Jane Richie Abode: Surry Hills Quality or Profession: - When Born: 10th Jany. /51 When Baptised: 24th Feby. By whom the Ceremony was performed: Revd. John Gourbelion
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/201749601
It's as if a clerk copied out the baptisms on the form to send to the Registrar General and didn't know how to spell the name.
Bap V1851107 68/1851 JOYCE HENRY - JOHN - JANE
Roman Catholic Baptisms in the Parish of St. James in the County of Cumberland 1851
Henry - John Joyce & Jane Richie Abode: Surry Hills Quality or Profession: - When Born: 10th Jany. /51 When Baptised: 24th Feby. By whom the Ceremony was performed: Revd. John Gourbelion
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/201749601
RC
June
MARRIAGES.
JOYCE-KELLY.-On the 12th Instant, at St. Mary's Cathe-
dral, by the Rev. Hugh D'Aclicrmaun, C.C., John Joyce, to
Sarah Kelly, of Macquarie River.
I have an image now.
1867
No. 37 12th June Sydney
John Joyce - Widower - Ireland - Stone Mason - 46 - Sydney - John Joyce & Mary Burns - Stone Mason
Sarah Kelly - Widow - Ireland - - - 36 - Sydney - Patrick Lavery & Sarah McCarthy - Farmer
Married in the Cathedral of St. Mary's According to the Rite of the Catholic Church
Parties signed: Witnesses: John Howley ?, Mary Curran
By me Hugh d'Ackermann ?
The deceased priests list has the name as Hugh d'Arkeman
It looks like Lavery and not Savery but can't be sure comparing the examples of the two letters on the page.
June
MARRIAGES.
JOYCE-KELLY.-On the 12th Instant, at St. Mary's Cathe-
dral, by the Rev. Hugh D'Aclicrmaun, C.C., John Joyce, to
Sarah Kelly, of Macquarie River.
I have an image now.
1867
No. 37 12th June Sydney
John Joyce - Widower - Ireland - Stone Mason - 46 - Sydney - John Joyce & Mary Burns - Stone Mason
Sarah Kelly - Widow - Ireland - - - 36 - Sydney - Patrick Lavery & Sarah McCarthy - Farmer
Married in the Cathedral of St. Mary's According to the Rite of the Catholic Church
Parties signed: Witnesses: John Howley ?, Mary Curran
By me Hugh d'Ackermann ?
The deceased priests list has the name as Hugh d'Arkeman
It looks like Lavery and not Savery but can't be sure comparing the examples of the two letters on the page.
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