John & Lucy HOWARD

[DaveHam9]

1858 Marriages solemnized at Trinity Church in the Parish of Upper Chelsea in the County of Middlesex
No. 326 December 28
John Howard Full Bachelor Labourer Weston Colvil Cambridge John Howard Labourer
Harriet Lucy Norman Full Spinster - Upper Chelsea Charles Norman Tailor
Married in the Parish Church after Banns by me Wm Scott Moncrieff
Both signed
Witnesses: William Williams, Rachel Thomson

'Palmyra' Departed Plymouth 13 Feb 1859 Arrived Sydney 27 May 1859
Master William Jamieson Surgeon William Kidman
HOWARD John 22 Farm labourer Cambridgeshire Wesleyan Both
Harriet 22 Wife Essex Wesleyan Both

No 2nd shipping reel to check parents.

Death 16456/1919 HOWARD JOHN - JOHN - - CROOKWELL * 30 Aug

Death 23099/1919 HOWARD HARRIETT L - WILLIAM [?] ANN [?] - CROOKWELL * 10 Dec 1919

Either both parents wrong or wrong death.

Harriet Lucy born 20 Feb 1836 Essex ? - Charles NORMAN & Elizabeth ALLARD ??

So far I can't find anything in Trove.

Dave

 

[gibbo]

Age fits for Harriet

Goulburn Evening Penny Post
Thu 18 Dec 1919

CROOKWELL.
(From Local Papers.)
There died at Crookwell on Thursday last one of our oldest pioneers. in the
person of Mrs. Harriet Lucy Howard at the age of 83 years. "Granny" Howard was noted for her unfailing energy and chelerfulness. Never a soul went by hilbut she had a word of greeting for them. Tile fact that she became known .?s "Granny" to all and sundry emphasiscs the regard of the people for her. Her daughters surviving are Mlras I. B. Bensliy, Mlrs. E. C. Bray, MIrs. Fred Morris (Lismore), and her sons John (Gilgandra), Charles (Crookwell), and James (Taralga). Itr descendants total 81, comprising-7 children, 51 grandchildren, and 13 great grandchildren.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/98906577

 

[gibbo]

Either both parents wrong or wrong death.

I think the informant got her parents wrong.

 

[gibbo]

"With her husband the late John Howard"

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/123307471

So he died before her as per death indexes you posted.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

The informant should have said 'unknown' 'unknown' :biggrin:

Charles Norman & Elizabeth Allard
8 Aug 1833 Barnwell, Cambridgeshire
Batch: M073422

Can't find any baptisms for the children born Essex.

Harriet was the first daughter and Charles the first son.

Births Mar Qtr 1839
Norman Charles Allard - Saffron Walden 12 209