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John M. HILL

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Hello,

1851 (from image)
Civil Parish: Largs
County: Ayrshire
Address: Wilson Street No 28
MALCOME John head Married age 59 Hand Loom Weaver Paisley, Renfrewshire
MALCOME Margaret Dau age 31 Winder ? Largs, Ayrshire
MALCOME John Son age 22 Winder ? weaver Largs, Ayrshire
HILL John Malcome Grandson age 1 Largs, Ayrshire
1861
Name: Margaret Malcolm
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relationship: Head
born: Largs, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 602
Registration district: Largs, Ayrshire
Address: Wilson Street
Occupation: Domestic Servant
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 98
Line: 9
Margaret Malcolm 41
John M Hill 11
name: John M Hill
event type: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Male
age: 21
birthplace: Ayrshire
registration district: Renfrew
county: Renfrewshire

name: John M Hill
event type: Census
event date: 1881
gender: Male
age: 30
birthplace: Ayrshire
registration district: Dennistoun
county: Lanarkshire

name: John M Hill
event: Census
event date: 1891
gender: Male
age: 41
birthplace: Ayrshire
registration district: Dennistoun
county: Lanarkshire

John was the informant to a 1904 death.

I'd like a look up please for John in 1891 and 1901 and 1871 and 1881. :D


We never did prove if Margaret married or not or if she died 1861-1871.

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Dave
 
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This is the one who comes up with an initial m

1871
John M Hill
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relationship: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Kargs, Ayrshire
Registration number: 575
Registration district: Renfrew
Civil parish: Renfrew
Town: Renfrew
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 4 Hairst St
Occupation: Railway Clerk
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 103
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1871_104
Household Members: Name Age
William Malcolm 45
Janet Carmichael 45
John M Hill 21
Margaret Carmichael 16
 

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1881

John M Hill
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Ann Hill
Gender: Male
Where born: Largs, Ayrshire
Registration number: 644/3
Registration district: Dennistoun
Civil parish: Glasgow Inner High
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 25 Alexandra Parade
Occupation: Clerk In Copper Work
ED: 47
Household schedule number: 32
Line: 11
Roll: cssct1881_220
Household Members: Name Age
John M Hill 30
Ann Hill 31
Ann P Howat 11
Catherine K Howat 9
Agnes Hill 7
 

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1891

John M Hill
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Ann Hill
Gender: Male
Where born: Largs, Ayrshire
Registration number: 644/3
Registration district: Dennistoun
Civil parish: Glasgow Inner High
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 57 Alexandra Par
Occupation: Mercantile Clerk
ED: 45
Household schedule number: 107
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1891_250
Household Members: Name Age
John M Hill 41
Ann Hill 42
Ann P Howat 21
Catherine K Howat 19
Agnes Hill 11
Janet M Hill 9
John M Hill 5
Wm M Hill 3
Jeanie P Hill 1
 

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Hello Barbara,

Thank you very much.

John Malcolm Hill
Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910
marriage: 28 Dec 1875 Renfrew,​Renfrew,​Scotland
spouse: Ann Dunn Hamilton

Who is William MALCOLM ??? Well now. Margaret's brother. I had William's death 1841-1851.

1841
Piece: SCT1841/602 Place: Largs -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 5
Civil Parish: Largs Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Largs
Folio: 4 Page: 27
Address: Nelson Street
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MALCOM John M 45 Weaver Ayrshire ? [Paisley]
MALCOM Margaret F 20 Ayrshire
MALCOM Janet F 18 Ayrshire
MALCOM William M 15 Weaver Apprentice Ayrshire
MALCOM John M 12 Ayrshire
MALCOM Agnes F 10 Ayrshire
MALCOM Mary F 8 Ayrshire
I presume Margaret is John M's mother but did she marry? I still can't find a death for her.

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Hello Barbara,

groom's name: William Malcolm
groom's birth date: 1825
groom's birthplace:
groom's age: 27
bride's name: Janet Carmichael
bride's birth date: 1825
bride's birthplace:
bride's age: 27
marriage date: 31 Jul 1852
marriage place: Low Church,Paisley,Renfrew,Scotland
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M11962-5
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 1041322
reference number:

I'd like a look up please for William & family in 1861.

Regards,

Dave
 

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I have 2x William MALCOLM born in Largs abt 1826:

1. John & Margaret SHEARER - Margaret's parents also.
2. Archibald & Rebecca WYLIE - must be son below in 1851

Piece: SCT1851/644 Place: Glasgow -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: St Johns Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 561 Page: 21 Schedule: 82
Address: 51 Burnside Street
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MALCOLM William Head M M 24 Mason Ayrshire - Largs
MALCOLM Jean Wife M F 23 Housekeeper Ayrshire - Mauchline
MALCOLM Robert Son - M 1 Lanarkshire - Glasgow
 

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MALCOLM, William Head Married M 34 1827 Baker
Largs, Ayrshire N/A
MALCOLM, Janet Wife Married F 34 1827 Baker
Largs, Ayrshire N/A
CARMICHAEL, Catherine Servant Unmarried F 15 1846 Servant
Paisley, Renfrewshire N/A
CARMICHAEL, Margaret Niece Unmarried F 8 1853 Scoolar
Paisley, Renfrewshire N/A
CARMICHAEL, Marion Niece Unmarried F 6 1855
Paisley, Renfrewshire N/A
Piece: 575
Folio: 0
Page: 16
Registration District: Renfrew (Burgh)
Civil Parish: Renfrew
Municipal Borough:
Address: Hairst Street, Renfrew
County: Renfrewshire
 

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Thanks Barbara.

I'm not 100% sure about the mason yet. He was a weaver in 1841 and I have not found the marriage yet or the birth of son Robert in 1850 in Glasgow.

Lets finish the baker first. Please see if you can find him after 1871.

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I can't find William in 1851 in FreeCEN as a baker or with any trade but this is probably him:

name: William Malcom
event type: Census
event date: 1851
gender: Male
age: 25
birthplace: Ayrshire
registration district:
county: Renfrewshire
estimated birth year: 1826
 
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I can't see either in 1881 or 1891.

The only tree I can find has William born Largs 1827 and
Wife
Jane 1827-
Daughter
Elizabeth Malcolm 1857-
Daughter
Rebecca Malcolm 1861-
Daughter
Jessie Malcolm 1863-
Son
William Malcolm 1865-

All children born Glasgow but not Robert born 1850.

No maiden name for Jane, no marriage and no census details and no deaths.
 
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The Baker in 1881

MALCOLM, William Head Married M 55 1826 Baker
Largs, Ayrshire N/A
MALCOLM, Janet Wife Married F 55 1826
Largs, Ayrshire N/A
CARMICHAEL, Catherine Niece F 6 1875
Paisley, Renfrewshire N/A
Piece: 6461
Folio: 38
Page: 13
Registration District: Govan Church
Civil Parish: Govan
Municipal Borough:
Address: 31, Fleming Street, Govan
County: Lanarkshire
 

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1891 with a nice niece

MALCOLM, William Head Married M 65 1826 Baker
Largs, Ayrshire N/A
MALCOLM, Janet Wife Married F 65 1826
Largs, Ayrshire N/A
MALCOLM, Agnes Sister Widow F 60 1831 Domestic Servant
Largs, Ayrshire N/A
MALCOLM, Janet Carmichael Niece F 12 1879 Scholar
Paisley, Renfrewshire N/A
Piece: 646
Folio: 52
Page: 12
Registration District: Govan
Civil Parish: Govan
Municipal Borough:
Address: Fleming Street, Govan
County: Lanarkshire
 

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There were two in Renfrewshire in 1851 but the mason is in Lanarkshire

Here is yours

NEIL, Archibald Head Married M 29 1822 Packer (Thread Mill)
Paisley, Renfrewshire N/A
NEIL, Elisabeth Wife Married F 30 1821
Lochwinnoch, Renfrewshire N/A
NEIL, Ann Daughter F 5 1846 Schollar
Largs, Ayrshire N/A
NEIL, Mary Daughter F 3 1848
Largs, Ayrshire N/A
NEIL, Archibald Son M 1 1850
Paisley, Renfrewshire N/A
NEIL, David Brother M 18 1833 Cotton Thread Twiner
Paisley, Renfrewshire N/A
MALCOM, William Lodger M 25 1826 Baker
Largs, Ayrshire N/A
Piece: 573
Folio: 17
Page: 11
Registration District:
Civil Parish:
Municipal Borough:
Address: 69, Broomland Street
County: Renfrewshire
 

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I think I'm up to speed with this one, Barbara.

They were both weavers in 1841.

The mason here in 1851:

Piece: SCT1851/644 Place: Glasgow -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: St Johns Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 561 Page: 21 Schedule: 82
Address: 51 Burnside Street
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MALCOLM William Head M M 24 Mason Ayrshire - Largs
MALCOLM Jean Wife M F 23 Housekeeper Ayrshire - Mauchline
MALCOLM Robert Son - M 1 Lanarkshire - Glasgow
Did you find him in Lanarkshire in 1861?

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