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John & Margaret KELTIE

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Hello,

1871 Scotland Census
Registration Number: 424/1
Registration district: Dunfermline Burgh
Civil parish: Dunfermline Burgh
County: Fife
ED: 12
Household schedule number: 13
Line: 14
Address: Chalmers Street
John Keltie Head 29 Torryburn, Fifeshire Tinsmith
Margaret Keltie Wife 31 [nee CALDWELL]
Agnes M Keltie 7
Cecilia M Keltie 5
James Keltie 3
Margaret Keltie 11mo
Children:

Agnes McIntyre KELTY c. 29 May 1864 United Association Burgh Seceders, Limekilns, Fife

Cecilia Masterton KELTIE b. 24 Sep 1865 Dunfermline, Fife

James KELTIE b. 11 Nov 1867 Dunfermline, Fife

Margaret KELTIE b. 30 Apr 1870 Dunfermline, Fife


I'd like a look up please for the family in 1881.

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Hello Barbara,

Thanks for looking.

Should I look in Queensland? :2fun: I'd better. No, not there.

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So did they all die or did the family leave Scotland?

Death 1925 Margaret KELTIE (CALDWELL) age 84

Hillhead, Lanark not Fife so is that a different one?
 
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Ok, thanks.

Now to check how many John KELTIEs there are born abt 1842. Four. This one is mine:

John Kelty
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth: 23 May 1842
christening: 19 Jun 1842 TORRYBURN,​FIFE,​SCOTLAND
residence: 1842 Fife,​ Scotland
parents: James Kelty,​ Cecilia Masterton

I see this one:

John Keltie
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth: 01 Nov 1840
christening: 30 Nov 1840 GORBALS,​LANARK,​SCOTLAND
residence: 1840 Lana,​ Scotland
parents: William Henry Keltie,​ Janet Mcgee

2x Margaret Caldwell Keltie - didn't expect that.
 

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So it's pointing to the family leaving Scotland. Except this throws a spanner in the works. :D

name: Margaret Wright Keltie
gender: Female
baptism/christening date:
baptism/christening place:
birth date: 11 May 1881
birthplace: Johnstone & Elderslie, Renfrew, Scotland
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Masterton Keltie
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Margaret Caldwell
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C01882-0
system origin: Scotland-EASy
source film number: 232659
reference number: v 559-3 p 64

Coincidence or not? John's mother is Cecilia Masterton but I've never before found anything showing John with a middle name.

I don't know where the Wright comes from. On John's side Watson, Dundas and Black.
 
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So far can only find one in Lanark and no overlap. So can the 2nd marriage be found?

name: John Caldwell Keltie
gender: Male
baptism/christening date:
baptism/christening place:
birth date: 12 Sep 1872
birthplace: GOVAN,LANARK,SCOTLAND
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: John Keltie
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Margaret Caldwell
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C11646-1
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 6035516
reference number:
 

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Methinks will have another look at them, too many coincidences. I could have sworn they were a couple living by themselves.

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The couple I saw in glasgow.

If they had a John where is he?




KILTY, John Head Married M 42 1839 Cooper's Carter
Glasgow
Lanarkshire N/A
KILTY, Margaret Wife Married F 40 1841
Ireland N/A

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Piece:
6445 Folio:
29 Page:
14 Registration District:
Blackfriars

Civil Parish:
City Glasgow Municipal Borough:
Address:
12, John Knox Street, City Glasgow County:
Lanarkshire
 

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Hello Barbara,

I can see only one marriage. I can see no overlap of children. I can find only one death that fits with age at death but not place of death. We have children with middle names that fit. I think we must have one family.

Can you check the 1871 I posted to see if there is a pob for Margaret. Thanks. If that says Ireland then must be same family.
 

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Thanks Barbara. That may or may not help. ;)

Margaret Martin Coldwell
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth: 26 Feb 1840
christening: 17 May 1840 UNITED ASSOCIATION BURGH SECEDERS,​ LIMEKILNS,​ FIFE,​ SCOTLAND
residence: 1840 Limekilns,​ Fifeshire,​ Scotland
parents: John Coldwell,​ Agnes Mcintyre


Daughter Agnes has McIntyre as a middle name.
 

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Hello Barbara,

This one is about 2 years older so he could be the one you found in 1881.

John Keltie
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth: 01 Nov 1840
christening: 30 Nov 1840 GORBALS,​LANARK,​SCOTLAND
residence: 1840 Lana,​ Scotland
parents: William Henry Keltie,​ Janet Mcgee


So far all we have for his spouse is Margaret born Ireland abt 1841. I can find no marriage in Lanark 1855-1881 in SP for a John KELTIE/KELTY/KILTY. There is this one:

John Scott Keltie
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marriage: 13 Jul 1865 Edinburgh Parish,​Edinburgh,​Midlothian,​Scotland
spouse: Margaret Scott


One day I'll have to find out which one this is:

Death 1917 John KELTIE Anderston, Lanark Age 75

Just found this one:

Death 1912 John KELTY St George, Midlothian Age 71

I can't find a death for Margaret nee SCOTT.
 
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The John Scott Keltie ended up in London and was an author, I saw him in my travels too.
I looked at him as the birth was right time and his wife was Margaret but he was around in 1871 too.

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