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John McMURCHY

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Hello,

John McMURCHY b. 24 Nov 1819 c. 28 Nov 1819 Southend, Argyll
- parents John McMURCHY & Catharine McEACHERN

1841
Piece: SCT1841/532 Place: Southend -Argyllshire Enumeration District: 10
Civil Parish: Southend Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island:
Folio: 10 Page: 1
Address: Kilblaan
Surname First name(s) *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
McMURCHY Cathrine F 50 Pauper Unknown
McMURCHY John M 18 Ag Lab Unknown
McMURCHY Flora F 15 Unknown


Index to the Unassisted Arrivals NSW 1842-1855
Name McMURCHAY Flora
Ship Frances
Status P
Date of arrival 24 Sep 1843
Origin port Liverpool, Port Phillip
Ref. 1270

As of Sep 1856 Catherine has son John, daughter Flora and another son Archibald Puden ? in NSW. I can't tell from shipping record if 'Puden' is a middle name or family name. If a family name then it's probably PEDEN and it would mean 2 marriages for Catherine/Katherine McEACHERN (several variations of both names).

Looking for the arrival of John between 1841 - 1856 ???

And the arrival of Archibald. FreeCEN has only 5% coverage of Argyll in 1851.

Dave

PS. This is a branch almost as bad as Lewton/Lear/Wilmott.
 
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1851
MCMURCHY, John Head Married M 30 1821 Labourer Killean, Argyleshire
MCMURCHY, Cathrine Wife Married F 24 1827 Killean, Argyleshire
MCMURCHY, Donald Son M 3 1848 Campbel, Argyleshire
MCMURCHY, John Son M 1 1850 Campbel, Argyleshire

Piece: 507 Folio: 34 Page: 27

Registration District: Cantyre
Civil Parish: Campbeltown
Address: Mill Know, Mill Know, Campbeltown
County: Argyllshire
 
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Thanks dave.

As well as not finding John yet in shipping records I don't have any details yet of him in Australia. I can't even say he arrived married with several children.

Archibald was listed before the others so he could be a son from Catherine's first marriage. He'd be older than John but I have no idea yet how much. New line of enquiry following the shipping reel look up on Monday.

I'll put that aside for now.

Dave
 
Flora Mcmurchy
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

birth: 5 June 1822
christening: 6 June 1822 , SOUTHEND, ARGYLL, SCOTLAND
residence: 1822 Southend, Argyllshire, Scotland
father: John Mcmurchy
mother: Katherine Mceachran
 
If this is him he is on 61 ans 81 as well


1871 Scotland Census

Name: John Mcmurchy
Age:49

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Where born: Campbeltown, argyle

Registration number: 507

Registration District: Campbeltown
Civil Parish: Campbeltown
County: Argyll
Address: Askomill Walk

Occupation:
Pensioner Coast Guard

Household Schedule Number: 159
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1871_89
 
Thanks dave.

Flora is the one who started me off chasing siblings and probably two marriages for her mother.

Somehow Flora's ancesters are connected to the ancestors of her spouse via Robert:

William Reid FLETCHER b. 7 Apr 1824 Campbeltown, Argyll
- parents Robert FLETCHER & Lovedy SMITH


Wesleyan Page 27
Marriages Solemnized in the Sydney Circuit
William Fletcher Bachelor of Sydney
Flora McMurchy Spinster of Sydney
Married in York st Chapel by Banns with consent of Friends
Fifteenth June 1848 By me Nathl. Turner
William signed and Flora (her x mark)
Witnesses: Archd. Fletcher, Isabella Fletcher
 
I think you can forget my last post, this looks like him

1891 Scotland Census

Name: John McMurchy

Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821

Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Catherine McMurchy

Where born: Killean, Argyll
Registration number: 507
Registration District: Campbeltown
Civil Parish: Campbeltown
County: Argyll
Address: Struthdnie Rd
Occupation: Road Contractor

ED: 8
Household Schedule Number: 16
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1891_165

John McMurchy 70
Catherine McMurchy 65
Donald McMurchy 44
Maggie McKinven 26
John McMurchy 3
 
Not sure dave. This branch is not easy. :rolleyes:


1851
HO107 Piece 507 Folio 311 Page 24
Registration District: Cantyre
Civil Parish: Campbeltown
Municipal Borough:
County: Argyllshire
Address: Shore Street West Side, Campbeltown
McEACHRAN, Cathrine Head Widow F 66 1785 Sailors Widow Campbeltown Argyllshire
 
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I will try my luck with Archibald rather than John and see if I can find him in Australia.

I will assume for now that Catherine married twice and that I'm searching for Archibald PEDEN/PEDAN/PEDERN/... born Argyll before 1818.


Oh. Possible arrival for Archibald 1838 - aged 26

parents John PEDEN & Catherine McEACHERN/McEACHERAN/McECHERAN/ ...


Well, the trees have a death for Catherine in 1828.

Trees have his death in 1855.

Death 1910/1856 PARDEN ARCHIBALD UNKNOWN DIED CAMDEN CAMDEN
 
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Name: Archibald Peden
Birth Year (Estimated): 1812
Age: 26
Native Residence Place: Kilblan, Argyleshire, Scotland
Father's Name: John Peden
Mother's Name: Catherine Mceachern
Spouse's Name: Barbara Peden
Spouse's Residence Place: Campbelltown, Argyleshire, Scotland
Spouse's Father's Name: Arch Fletcher
Spouse's Mother's Name: Barbara Mceachern
Ship Name: St George
Event Date: 15 Nov 1838
Volume: 11
GS Film number: 416875
Digital Folder Number: 4117087
Image Number: 04823


99% of the dozens of trees have the death for Catherine as 1828.
 
Looking for an arrival for John now.


Death 2879/1865 McMURCHY JOHN - JOHN - CATHERINE - YOUNG
 
If that is John married in 1851 then I can't find a death or remarriage in NSW for his spouse Catherine. I can't find a marriage in NSW for John either. Thee are no McMURCHY births in NSW with father = John. The 1865 death for John is the only death with father = John.


I doubt that is correct:

Barbara McEachern
1779-1889
Born: Scotland
Died: Goulburn, New South Wales, Australia
 
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I will try my luck with Archibald rather than John and see if I can find him in Australia.

I will assume for now that Catherine married twice and that I'm searching for Archibald PEDEN/PEDAN/PEDERN/... born Argyll before 1818.


Oh. Possible arrival for Archibald 1838 - aged 26

parents John PEDEN & Catherine McEACHERN/McEACHERAN/McECHERAN/ ...


Well, the trees have a death for Catherine in 1828.

Trees have his death in 1855.

Death 1910/1856 PARDEN ARCHIBALD UNKNOWN DIED CAMDEN CAMDEN


And now im going to wreck your theory on Archibald's death :biggrin:

6686/1889 PEDEN BARBARA ARCHBALD BARBARA GOULBURN

Goulburn Evening Penny Post (NSW : 1881 - 1940)
Saturday 13 April 1889

DIED, ON 25th March, at the residence of her daughter (Mrs. B. Webber), Grafton-street, Goulburn, BARBARA, relict of the late ARCHIBALD PEDEN, of Camden, native of Campbelltown, Argyleshire, Scotland ; aged 83 years. Deeply regretted by all her family and respected by her friends. Her end was peace. Home papers please copy.

Goulburn Cemetery
PEDEN Archibald P144 11 March 1855, 45y. d. Camden. Husband of Barbara Peden
PEDEN Barbara P144 25 March 1889, 83y. Wife of Archibald Peden

http://www.australiancemeteries.com/nsw/goulburn/goulburnozold.htm

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTC7-SWL
 
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Ok, thanks gibbo.

I can't either.

Still have John to find.

I'm going to start a topic on Scotland board for Archibald to try and trace his ancestors and those of his spouse Barbara.
 
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