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John Morgan & Hannah Bellis,Welsh

stevegraham85

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Looking for info on John Morgan born 1816 Seaton Cheshire[is that Wales] parents etc,on England or Welsh side,.also wife Hannah Bellis, born 1825 Bretton, Flintshire, Wales, parents info etc, and where they hailed from.

Daughter Catherine Ann came to Aussie as a maid for Sir Edward Strickland and married my great grand father George Graham. George was Sir Edwards valet.


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Hi just to help the "peeps" here is 1861

Hannah 35 number taker of Railway carriages??? not sure, bn Bretton Flint wife of John 45 Inspector Ches Railway bn Paighton?? Ches
Richd 17 flour dealer shop boy, Robt 15 flour dealers shop boy, Hannah 10, Wm 7, CATHERINE 3 all born Bretton
John 1 born Chester.
RG9/2631/19/6

In 1851 John listed as son in law born Seacombe Ches.

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Hi Steve

Seacombe, Cheshire is in England, near Wallasey not far from Liverpool.

I am working on another problem at the moment, but will look for Hannah later when I have more time.

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for your records in case you don't have this 1871
Richard 27 unm lodger Railway Inspector born "Brelton" Flint
in Shavington cum Gestry Ches.

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Hi Stevo,

Not sure if this is THE Hannah.

1841 census.


Name: Hannah Bellis
Age: 20
Est birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Female
Where born: Flintshire, Wales

Civil parish: Mold
Hundred: Mold
County: Flintshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: Rhydgoley
Reg dist: Holywell
Sub-reg dist: Mold

Edwd Bellis 45 . Occ. Miner.
Mary Bellis 45
Hannah Bellis 20. Occ. Cotton Spinner.
Anne Bellis 20
John Bellis 15

There are more BELLIS's about 5 miles away in Great Boughton, right next door to BRETTON.


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Hi Stevo,

Not sure if this is THE Robert Bellis.

1841 census.

Name: Robert Bellis
Age: 50
Est. birth year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Flintshire, Wales

Civil parish: Northop
Hundred: Coleshill
County: Flintshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: Penypark. ??

Reg dist: Holywell
Sub-reg dist: Flint

Robert Bellis 50. Occ. Lead Miner.
Mary Bellis 85. (Possibly mother. ??)

Northop is about 5/6 miles from Bretton.

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Hi just to help the "peeps" here is 1861

Hannah 35 number taker of Railway carriages??? not sure, bn Bretton Flint wife of John 45 Inspector Ches Railway bn Paighton?? Ches
Richd 17 flour dealer shop boy, Robt 15 flour dealers shop boy, Hannah 10, Wm 7, CATHERINE 3 all born Bretton
John 1 born Chester.
RG9/2631/19/6

In 1851 John listed as son in law born Seacombe Ches.

ozn
It's sound like them, is there any more on them.

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Hi Stevo,

Not sure if this is THE Robert Bellis.

1841 census.

Name: Robert Bellis
Age: 50
Est. birth year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Flintshire, Wales

Civil parish: Northop
Hundred: Coleshill
County: Flintshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: Penypark. ??

Reg dist: Holywell
Sub-reg dist: Flint

Robert Bellis 50. Occ. Lead Miner.
Mary Bellis 85. (Possibly mother. ??)

Northop is about 5/6 miles from Bretton.

Steve.:)
Morning Pommie Steve, It does sounds like they are the ones, however I'll check them out.

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Hi Oz Steve

Welsh Family History has not caught up yet with the amount online that England has available. It is getting there, North Wales BMD is online from 1837, which is no help to you.

I have to go to the Local Record office or the National Library of Wales to find info on all my lines, which is an expensive trek . Takes nearly all day to get there for a start.

The Clwyd Family History Society have a large amount of parish records transcribed which you can purchase after you have joined for £10 approx. I have not got the latest magazine handy to check, but it is good value for money. You can find them online.

Hope this helps with Hannah
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Hi Oz Steve

Welsh Family History has not caught up yet with the amount online that England has available. It is getting there, North Wales BMD is online from 1837, which is no help to you.

I have to go to the Local Record office or the National Library of Wales to find info on all my lines, which is an expensive trek . Takes nearly all day to get there for a start.

The Clwyd Family History Society have a large amount of parish records transcribed which you can purchase after you have joined for £10 approx. I have not got the latest magazine handy to check, but it is good value for money. You can find them online.

Hope this helps with Hannah
Maddie
Thank you for the tip Oz Steve
 

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Hi just to help the "peeps" here is 1861

Hannah 35 number taker of Railway carriages??? not sure, bn Bretton Flint wife of John 45 Inspector Ches Railway bn Paighton?? Ches
Richd 17 flour dealer shop boy, Robt 15 flour dealers shop boy, Hannah 10, Wm 7, CATHERINE 3 all born Bretton
John 1 born Chester.
RG9/2631/19/6

In 1851 John listed as son in law born Seacombe Ches.

ozn
HI,
that sounds like them.
thank you
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Hi Stevo,

Not sure if this is THE Robert Bellis.

1841 census.

Name: Robert Bellis
Age: 50
Est. birth year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Flintshire, Wales

Civil parish: Northop
Hundred: Coleshill
County: Flintshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: Penypark. ??

Reg dist: Holywell
Sub-reg dist: Flint

Robert Bellis 50. Occ. Lead Miner.
Mary Bellis 85. (Possibly mother. ??)

Northop is about 5/6 miles from Bretton.

Steve.:)
Thanks Steve for the info.

Oz Steve
 

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Hi Oz Steve

Welsh Family History has not caught up yet with the amount online that England has available. It is getting there, North Wales BMD is online from 1837, which is no help to you.

I have to go to the Local Record office or the National Library of Wales to find info on all my lines, which is an expensive trek . Takes nearly all day to get there for a start.

The Clwyd Family History Society have a large amount of parish records transcribed which you can purchase after you have joined for £10 approx. I have not got the latest magazine handy to check, but it is good value for money. You can find them online.

Hope this helps with Hannah
Maddie
Maddie every bit helps

Oz Steve
 

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