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[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Well now.

It didn't mean anything to you.

Jean Hoggan STEWART must be a younger sister or his mother ???

Jane STEWART (no middle name) b. 25 Jan 1874 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland d. ??

Jean/Jane STEWART (nee HOGGAN) b. abt 1842 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland d. ??


Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

It can't be his mother. His father remarried in 1887.

It's neither of the daughters born to 2nd spouse - Sarah & Effie.

Curious. Jane b. 1874 does not appear in any census so did she die before 1881?

Now, who is Jean Hoggan ?

Ok must be a daughter born abt 1912. :2fun: But why would she be retired?

I think the meds are making me... >

Death 23295/1952 STEWART JEAN HOGGAN NOT KNOWN NOT KNOWN WOLLONGONG

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

Bought my husband a PILLFREAK t-shirt for xmas, he can't wait to wear it to the quacks next.>

This should play with your head.

Jean Hoggan Stewart Female 1930 New South Wales West Sydney Surry Hills (nurse) 471 Dowling street
Jean Hoggan Stewart Female 1930 New South Wales Martin Drummoyne (home duties) 51A Alexandra st, Drummoyne

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crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hell crankypants,

Oh. :2fun:

Oh my head. >

A total of three entries in 1930? That does not seem possible for one person.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Birth # 10907/1905 STEWART JEAN H RICHARD T ISABELLA R BALMAIN SOUTH

I wonder.

Marriage # 6841/1927 MARTIN RONALD C STEWART JEAN H DRUMMOYNE ??


No because of this:

MARTIN Jean Heather Death notice 26MAY1996 Death 91 formerly of Beecroft Sydney Morning Herald 01JUN1996


I've sent off for a NSW birth look up 1910-1918.

I notice only son Ian is mentioned in the death notice and James died before Jean.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

1936 VIC Electoral Roll – Bendigo - Bendigo
DAVEY Alfred Ernest, Guest House, Mitchell st. Bendigo, mgr.
DAVEY Edith Elizabeth, Guest House, Mitchell st. Bendigo, proprietress

Please see what you can find after 1936. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

Judith BARRACLOUGH b. 1925 d. 2001 Potts Point

married 1945 Woollahra

Ian Falkner POTTS b. 1921 Sydney d. 1996 Sydney

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

Robert Hill BUCHANAN b. 1889 d. 1961 Manly

married 1920 Qld.

Essie Lavinia Pritchard WARD b. 1888 Qld. d. 1975

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Robert Hill BUCHANAN b. 16 Sep 1889 Airdrie, Lanark, Scotland

- parents William & Mary T

T = Tait or Templeton ??


Enlisted Brisbane, Qld. 15 Sep 1916 - S/N 1118 Australian Flying Corps No 4 Sqdn - NOK (Mother) Mrs Mary Tait Buchanan living at Brigalow, West Line, Qld. - Embarked Melbourne RMS 'Omrah' 17 Jan 1917 - Discharged ...

Death # 5061/1961 BUCHANAN ROBERT HILL WILLIAM MARY TEMPLETON MANLY


Arrived in Australia?

EDIT: Ormuz 3 Oct 1910 to Brisbane William & Mary and William, Robert, Mary, Kate and James.

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,


BUCHANAN William 46 Ormuz 3 Oct 1910 IMM/128 297 Z1968 M1707, M1708
BUCHANAN Mary 49 Ormuz 3 Oct 1910 IMM/128 297 Z1968 M1707, M1708
BUCHANAN Robert 20 Ormuz 3 Oct 1910 IMM/128 297 Z1968 M1707, M1708
BUCHANAN Mary 18 Ormuz 3 Oct 1910 IMM/128 298 Z1968 M1707, M1708
BUCHANAN Kate 14 Ormuz 3 Oct 1910 IMM/128 297 Z1968 M1707, M1708
BUCHANAN William 12 Ormuz 3 Oct 1910 IMM/128 297 Z1968 M1707, M1708
BUCHANAN James 9 Ormuz 3 Oct 1910 IMM/128 297 Z1968 M1707, M1708

I had to put that .PDF in FF to be able to copy and paste the lines. I could not get the highlighting to work in Chrome.

EDIT:

William BUCHANAN b. abt 1863 Airdrie, Lanark
Mary TAIT b. 1860 Lesmahagow, Lanark

Mary's parents: John TAIT & Mary TEMPLETON

Married: 25 OCT 1888 in Cockburn Hotel, Bath Street, Glasgow

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

No sign of a STEWART birth in NSW 1910-1918.

Anyway, for Jean to be in 1930 E/R she had to have been born in 1909 or earlier. The only birth in NSW is the Jean Heather one. So, what is left? She was born in or before 1909, just after or before the marriage and her birth not registered?

I can't see a death in NSW for Ian before 1979 or a death in Ryerson that stands out.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

1901 Scotland Census
Name: Robert Buchanan
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relationship: Son
Father's name: William Buchanan
Mother's name: Mary Buchanan
Gender: Male
Where born: Airdrie, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 651
Registration district: New Monkland
Civil Parish: New Monkland
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 50 High St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 158
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1901_342
Household Members:
William Buchanan 27
Mary Buchanan 40
Robert Buchanan 11
Mary Buchanan 9
John Buchanan 7
Catherine Buchanan 5
Wm Buchanan 3
James Buchanan 8 MO
Isabella Nicol 19

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crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Ada Elizabeth DOWNES b. 1869 Vic. d. 1900 Prahran

married 1894 Vic.

Edward NORMAN b. abt 1871 d. 1957 Dandenong

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

1903 & 1954 Not sure which Edward is yours.

Edward Norman Male 1903 Victoria Flinders Bunyip South (farmer)
Edward Norman Male 1903 Victoria Southern Melbourne South Yarra (carpenter)
Edward Norman Male 1903 Victoria Yarra Richmond South (box maker)

Edward Norman Male 1954 Victoria Chisholm Glen Iris (handyman)
Edward Norman Senior Male 1954 Victoria Fawkner Prahran (labourer)
Edward Norman Male 1954 Victoria Darebin Reservoir (decorator)


Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Hilda Winifred Norman
Father's name: Edw Norman
Mother's name: Ada Elizth Downes
Birth Place: Armadale, Victoria
Registration Year: 1895
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 8701

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Dorothy Ada Norman
Father's name: Edward Norman
Mother's name: Ada Downes
Birth Place: Prahran, Victoria
Registration Year: 1900
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 13637

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Gladys Hazel Norman
Father's name: Edward Norman
Mother's name: Ada Downes
Birth Place: Prahran, Victoria
Registration Year: 1900
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 13636


Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Dorothy Ada Norman
Death Place: Prn, Victoria
Father's name: Norman Edwd
Mother's name: Ada Downes
Registration Year: 1900
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 6856

Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Gladys Hazel Norman
Death Place: Prn, Victoria
Father's name: Norman Edwd
Mother's name: Ada Downes
Registration Year: 1900
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 6844

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

I don't know Edward's occupation. I have his birth as abt 1871 Dublin and his death:


Surname: NORMAN
Given Names: Edward
Father: Edmund
Mother: Maria FROST
Death Place: DAND
Age: 86
Year: 1957
Reg Number: 21766
Event: D

Does Dandenong help?

Rather curious - not Presbyterian:

Cemetery SPRINGVALE BOTANICAL CEMETERY
Given Names EDWARD
Surname NORMAN
Date of Service 22/07/1957
Burial Type BURIED
Location Details CHURCH OF ENGLAND, MONUMENTAL, COMPARTMENT C SECTION 16 GRAVE 20
Public Grave Y/N N
Tenure Date IN PERPETUITY - FOR ALL TIME

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

No. Only 3 Edward's and none in Dandenong. There is only a Thomas Edward NORMAN 1954 Dandenong.

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thanks. Ok then we are stuck. I have nothing more on him. Not even sure about the born in Dublin bit.


Sheila Mary WALKER b. 1915 d. 2009 ACT

married 1938 N Sydney

Louis Rolin WYATT b. 1906 N Sydney d. 1993 ACT

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Well, to confuse things I've found 2 trees:

Edward b. 1851 - parents Edmund & Maria FROST - both born Bucks abt 1825.

Edward b. 1870 Prahran - parents Edmund & Maria FROST

married Elizabeth PARRY - no date given.

So, I could have the wrong death or the wrong...

Surname: DOWNES
Given Names: Ada Elizth
Event: M
Spouse Surname: NORMAN
Spouse Gvn Names: Edwd [b. Dublin] *** where did that come from ?
Birth Place: CARLTON
Year: 1894
Reg. Number: 1203

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Cemetery SPRINGVALE BOTANICAL CEMETERY
Given Names EDWARD
Surname NORMAN
Religion NONE
Date of Service 23/11/1960
Burial Type BURIED
Location Details ROMAN CATHOLIC, MONUMENTAL, COMPARTMENT K SECTION 8 GRAVE 49
Public Grave Y/N N
Tenure Date IN PERPETUITY - FOR ALL TIME

Things just don't fit.

Both of Ada's parents were born in Ireland but I'm 100% sure they were not RC. So strange that Ada would marry one born in Dublin who was RC, yet Ada was buried in CofE section.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

Two trees on 'A' have Edward NORMAN b. 1870 Prahan d. 1957 Dandenong, parents Edmund NORMAN & Maria FROST. Married Elizabeth PARRY 1892 Richmond.

cheers
crankypants