John PATER & Matilda DIX

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Looking for the marriage of John PATER & Matilda DIX probably before 1866 - a son born in Emerald Hill, Victoria that year.

Thanks,

Dave

 

[oznannie]

Hiya Dave, there is a birth further back in 1863 for a John Raymond Pater
father John Pater mother Matilda Dix at Emerald Hill.
Edit found Emma Matilda bn to parents 1859.
She died in 1939 Prahran aged 79yrs.
Ozn

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Ozn,

That's a sibling of Albert Stephen I didn't have.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

If a tree is correct we should be looking in Wiltshire. :biggrin:

Marriages Mar Qtr 1857
Dix Matilda Cirencester 6a 447
Pater John Cirencester 6a 447


Birth of a daughter Emma in 1859 but the tree gives not pob. May or may not be this one:

Births Jun Qtr 1859
Pater Emma Mary Agnes Islington 1b 285

Oh:

Deaths Jun Qtr 1948
Pater Emma M A 88 North Bucks. 6a 313

The 1859 birth might be in Victoria so that rules out 1861 census.

 

[DaveHam9]

Unassisted Inward Passenger Lists to Victoria
PATER JOHN 21 APR 1857 GREAT BRITAIN B 123 005
PATER MATILDA 22 APR 1857 GREAT BRITAIN B 123 005

 

[DaveHam9]

Also possibly in Victoria before 1867 the related marriage of Peter YOUNG & Susan ERSKINE.

I can't see it in the Vic. BMD index 1850-1868 nor NSW 1850-1870.

Does not look like England either.

 

[DaveHam9]

Name: Peter Young
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Susan Erskine
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 01 May 1848
Event Place: Saint Cuthberts,Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Erskine
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M11990-2
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
GS Film number: 1066766
Reference ID:

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't find them in 1851 and I can't find them in shipping records 1848-1851.

Curious. A tree has them in Scotland in 1851. The tree is wrong - her father is Thomas ERSKINE so this can't be Susan in 1851:

Piece: SCT1851/693 Place: Liberton -Midlothian Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Liberton Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 753 Page: 7 Schedule: 31
Address: Echobank
Surname First name(s) Rel Status *** Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
YOUNG William Head W M 63 Coal Merchant East Lothian - Morham
YOUNG Susan Daur U F 19 Midlothian - Newton

The tree has no residence for spouse Peter in 1851.

 

[oznannie]

Lo tis me again Dave, there's a tree in Anx which has Susan Erskine born Gilmerton Midlothian in 1822 married aged 16 no details to Peter Young.
She died in Prahran in 1878 aged 48yrs.l
Ozn

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, thanks Ozn, I've seen that one and similar. They list a daughter Harriet born 1849 but no pob. Next one son James born 1851 Victoria.

I can't find them in shipping records 1848-1851.

 

[DaveHam9]

Another related one:

Joseph DAVIS & Elizabeth BERRY bef 1878 - daughter Florence Maud(e) born in Victoria 1877.

That's in the index - 1870 Victoria.

 

[oznannie]

Hi again Dave there is a Harriet Young in another tree in Anx, born Scotland 1849 no parents listed. She married in Victoria 1877 to a Joseph John Albon.
Harriet died aged 70yrs, 1919 in Flinders Vic.
5 children listed.
Ozn

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Ozn,

I still can't find them in 1851 or in shipping records so it's down to 1849-1851 now.

Dave

 

[horse]

Hi Dave

There are 7 more Young's on the ship, but the following appear to be the closest from the list, ages seem to fit, not sure about James b. 1851, unless he was b. en route...

YOUNG PETER 25 SEP 1852 EUROPA B 008 010
YOUNG SUSAN 20 SEP 1852 EUROPA B 008 010
YOUNG HARRIETT 3 SEP 1852 EUROPA B 008 010

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

It looks as though James must have been born on the voyage.

One of those Victorian ones on fiche at the library that have almost no additional info apart from occupation.