John PENTLAND

[DaveHam9]

1881
Piece 6922 Folio 2 Page 4
Civil Parish: Leith South
County: Midlothian
Registration District: South Leith
Address: 6 Summerfield Place
PENTLAND John Head Mar M 31 Grocer Dalkeith Midlothian
PENTLAND Margaret Wife Mar F 39 Leith Midlothian
PENTLAND Agnes dau F 5 Leith Midlothian
BUCHANAN Margaret servant F 15 General Servant Leith Midlothian

1891
Civil Parish: Leith South
County: Midlothian
Registration District: South Leith
Address: 6 Summerfield Place
PENTLAND John Head 40 Grocer Dalkeith Midlothian
PENTLAND Agnes dau 15 Shop assistant Leith Midlothian
PENTLAND Euphemia mother 75 Housekeeper Liberton Midlothian

1901
Reg No: 692/2
Registration District: Leith South
Civil Parish: Leith South
Town: Leith
County: Midlothian
Roll: CSSCT1901_399 Page 31
ED: 2
Address: 3 Ryehill Places
PENTLAND John Head 49 Grocer Dalkeith
PENTLAND Margaret Wife 45 Hawick Lanarkshire
PENTLAND Agnes dau 24 Grocer assist Leith
PENTLAND Maud dau 5 Leith
PENTLAND Euphemia dau 4 Leith
PENTLAND James son 7mo Leith

Looks like 2 marriages to a Margaret.

Have not found a birth/bap for John yet. Newbattle or Dalkeith.

Dave

 

[rupert]

A possible 2nd marriage

Marriage
John PENTLAND & Margaret MAXWELL
year: 1894
ref; 560/ 85
e.n: 85
r.d Cathcart (Lanark)

Marriage
31 August 1894 - Glasgow Herald - Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
PENTLAND - MAXWELL - At 5 Bellvue Terrace,
Cathcart, on the 28th inst., by the Rev. James
....? D.D., John Pentland, Leith, to Mar-
garet Maxwell, daughter of the late James
Maxwell, Hamilton.

Rupert

 

[emeltee]

Don't know if you have/want this but in 1861 John is down as Nephew, living with Charles Shedden, a 60 yr old widower in Cockpen and in 1871 he is a Boarder with a Charles Dempsey and family in St Andrews, Midlothian. On both Censuses it gives his pob as Newbattle.

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Rupert.

Thanks Emeltee.

It's 50/50 Newbattle and Dalkeith.

Euphemia Pentland had three children ...

Lewis Walker b. 3 Mar 1844
baptism: 5 Apr 1844 Liberton, Midlothian
Lewis Walker & Euphemia Pentland
Batch: C116939

IGI has "EUPHEMIA PENTLAND Birth: 26 OCT 1846 Liberton, Midlothian C116939" with no parents given, although the OPR gives: "PENTLAND : 1846 : Euphemia, illegitimate daughter of Euphemia PENTLAND was born at Echobank, on the 26th day of October eighteen hundred and forty six, and baptized on the 29th day of October 1855 by the Revd John Stewart Witnesses Margaret PENTLAND & Mary Handyside" - Liberton OPR.

... and then John.

No queries re son Lewis or daughter Euphemia.

Death 1914 DANIELS Euphemia (PENTLAND) St. Giles, Midlothian Age 67

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't find a baptism for John on SP using just John and parent Pentland.

 

[DaveHam9]

??
PENTLAND
JOHN
Spouse details
1876
692/2 210
210
Leith South
FERGUSON
MARGARET
1876
692/2 210
Leith South


Death
PENTLAND
MARGARET
41
1882
692/2 492
Leith South


A death for the 2nd Margaret?

 

[DaveHam9]

PENTLAND
JOHN
72
1924
685/11 205
Leith South

Still points to 1852 but no sign of baptism.

 

[rupert]

1901
Reg No: 692/2
Registration District: Leith South
Civil Parish: Leith South
Town: Leith
County: Midlothian
Roll: CSSCT1901_399 Page 31
ED: 2
Address: 3 Ryehill Places
PENTLAND John Head 49 Grocer Dalkeith
PENTLAND Margaret Wife 45 Hawick Lanarkshire
PENTLAND Agnes dau 24 Grocer assist Leith
PENTLAND Maud dau 5 Leith
PENTLAND Euphemia dau 4 Leith
PENTLAND James son 7mo Leith

Birth
9 August 1900 - Dundee Evening Post - Dundee, Angus, Scotland
Pentland -At 3 Ryehill Place, Leith, on the
7th inst., the wife of John Pentland, of
a son.


Death
20 February 1903 - The Scotsman - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
PENTLAND - At 3 Ryehill Place, Leith, on the 18th
inst., JAMES HAMILTON, only son of JOHN PENTLAND.
Funeral to Seafield Cemetery on Sunday, at 1 o'clock. Friend
please accept this intimation and invitation.


Rupert

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Rupert.

None of the ages fit for death after 1901 of a Margaret Pentland in all of Scotland.

Dave.

 

[rupert]

Marriage
28 June 1902 - Edinburgh Evening News - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
BERTRAM - PENTLAND - At the Queen's Hotel, Leith,
on the 24th inst., by the Rev. J. Burnett, B.D.,
assistant minister of Parish Church, South Leith, JOHN
BERTRAM, Strathaven, to AGNES WIGHTMAN, eldest
daughter of JOHN PENTLAND, Leith.

Death
Agnes Wightman BERTRAM
63
1939
644/6 1476
Townhead

Rupert

 

[Pentlander]

I've only just come across this thread, so I don't know the context.

It would take too long to go into gritty detail, but to clarify: Euphemia Pentland (d/o John Pentland & Ann Knight) did not have three children. She did have Lewis Walker & John Pentland. She died unmarried 1897 Newtongrange, Newbattle.

It's easy to understand the mix-up, for it was another Euphemia Pentland who had illeg Euphemia Pentland. She was d/o Colin Pentland & Margaret Young (actually baptised Euphans but always used Euphemia thereafter). She died 1898 Millerhill, Newton, widow of John Brown.

As you rightly imply, her illeg dau Euphemia Pentland died 1914 in Edinburgh, widow of William Daniels. William Pennycuik, at the time a married man, was accused of being the father which he denied but Euphemia's father Colin was pretty clear that he had found the culprit after having "questioned" him.

The illeg son John Pentland did marry twice - his death registration in 1924 proves that. He names his father as John Pentland contractor on his first marriage, and Charles Pentland grocer on his second marriage. 'Charles Pentland grocer' is a clear reference to Charles Shedden grocer, who probably brought him up (he had been married to his mother's sister Ann Pentland). 'John Pentland contractor' we think might be son of John Pentland a carter & Janet Lauder.

I'm actually in the process of untangling Liberton's earlier John Pentlands - an impossible task! - when I came across your post. My 3xgtgdparents are John Pentland & Ann Knight, parents of Euphemia Pentland mother of John.

Howard