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John RAMSAY & Margaret GREWER

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Death in Queensland

5 Feb 1927/C0491 Ramsay James Grewer - John Ramsay - Margaret Grewer

Looking for the marriage of John and Margaret.

Son James born abt 1864.

Ramsay James Grewar
Death Date: 5 Feb 1927
Age: 63
Portion: Pbn


Neither event in NSW or Qld. or Vic. so England or Scotland or ...

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James
Baptism 5 Jun 1864
Event Place Kirkton of Glenisla, Angus, Scotland
Gender Male
Father's Name John Ramsay
Mother's Name Margaret Grewar

Kirkton of Glenisla is a village in Glen Isla, Angus, Scotland. It is situated on the River Isla, eleven miles north-west of Kirriemuir ...
Arrival in Australia ?

James married in Qld. in 1901.

Can't find a death in Qld. for Margaret.
 
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John Ramsay
Event Type Census
Event Date 1861
Gender Male
Age 48
Birthplace Forfarshire (Angus)
Registration District Glenisla
County Forfarshire (Angus)

James Ramsay
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Gender Male
Age 7
Birthplace Forfarshire
Registration District Glenisla
County Forfarshire (Angus)

James Ramsay
Event Type Census
Event Date 1881
Gender Male
Age 17
Birthplace Forfar
Registration District Glenisla
County Forfarshire (Angus)
 

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James Ramsay
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
Gender Male
Age 27
Birthplace Forfar
Registration District Kirriemuir
County Forfarshire (Angus)
 

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No arrival.. but before May 1901...

James Grewar Ramsay born Renfrewshire Scotland buried Feb 6 1927 Herberton General Cemetery age 63 h/Ada Matilda

James married Ada Matilda Yaxley 22 May 1901 Qld.

The Northern Herald Wed 16 Feb 1927
DEMISE OF MR. JAMES.RAMSAY. .
It will be of sad interest to many to learn of the demise of a very old resident of Herberton, Mr. James Ramsay, who passed away on Saturday morning last at the Herberton District hospital where he was an inmate for about three weeks prior to his death. The deceased, who had been in ill-health for nearly three years, had been attending the hospital as an out-door patient since two and a half years ago, when he underwent an operation and from which, we understand, he never properly recovered. His remains were interred in the Herberton district cemetery on Sunday. morning — the Rev. F. Jones of Herberton officiating. His wife, two married daughters (Mrs. Graham Ledlie, Ravenshoe, and Mrs. Alex Tunnie, Herberton) and a son surivive him. Deepest and heartfelt sympathy is offered to Mrs. Ramsay and family in their sad bereavement.

Ada Margaret Ramsay b? married William Graham Ledlie 1924 Qld

Ellen Louise Ramsay b 1904 Qld to James Grewer Ramsay & Ada Matilda Yaxley - married Alexander Robert Tunnie 1926 Qld.

Son- John Grewar Ramsay b 1907 Qld – married 1st Doreen Mavis Lillian Smith 1937 Qld the 2nd to Olive Isabel Mary Clench in 1940 Qld

Ooopps…
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/a...illian ramsay&searchLimits=l-state=Queensland

RAMSAY JOHN GREWAR : Service Number - QX1613 : Date of birth - 26 Sep 1907 : Place of birth - MAREEBA QLD : Place of enlistment - TOWNSVILLE QLD : Next of Kin - RAMSAY OLIVE – file open.

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Thanks Val.

A bit of detail there I didn't have.

Trying to confirm James in the census to narrow down the search for his arrival.

Birth 12 Oct 1902/C05419 Ramsey Ada Margeret - James Grewer - Ada Matilda Yaxley


Pinnaroo Cemetery
Portion 15A Grave 228
Ledlie Ada Margaret F 16 / 11 / 1990 88 years


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Does it look to be the same James in 1881 and 1891?

There is no doubt about the James in 1871 as he is with grand parents John & Maryann Grewar.

Marriage in Queensland 22 May 1901/C0255 Ramsay James Grewer - Yarley Ada Matilda

Death 5 Feb 1927/C0491 Ramsay James Grewer - John Ramsay - Margaret Grewer

A problem in 1861 as spouse of John Ramsay seems to be an Isabella.
Do we have 2x John Ramsay in Glenisla in 1861 - one married to Margaret and the other to Isabella??

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David Ramsay
Birth Date 7 Jun 1891
Birthplace Kirriemuir, Forfar
Father's Name James Ramsay
Mother's Name Mary Ammit Williamson Ramsay


If it's the same James then there is a wife and at least 5 children by 1892. !!
 

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John Ramsay
Spouse's Name Isabell Jack
Event Date 16 May 1847
Event Place Glenisla, Angus

Peter Ramsay
Christening Date 26 Nov 1851
Christening Place GLENISLA,ANGUS,SCOTLAND
Birth Date 28 Oct 1851
Father's Name John Ramsay
Mother's Name Isabella Mcintyre

Ok. That problem is half solved. The John Ramsay in 1861 is not the father of James. Wife Isabella and children Donald 14, Peter 9 and George 5.

Was James the only child and did both parents die 1864 - 1871 ??

The alternative is 1x John and Isabella dies 1861 - 1864 and John remarries to Margaret Grewar. James with grandparents in 1871, so what of John & Margaret?

Looks as though John Grewar did not die 1871 - 1881 so the James Ramsay 17 a farm servant with Cargill family in 1881 may be the married one in 1891.

That means arrival for James is 1871 - 1901.
 
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Death 5 Feb 1927/C0491 Ramsay James Grewer - John Ramsay - Margaret Grewer

Marriage ??

GREWAR
MARGARET
CHARLES HENDERSON/
19/11/1843
290/
20 172
Glenisla

GREWAR
MARGARET
DONALD PATERSON/
30/07/1843
290/
20 172
Glenisla


These are both in Fife.

??
RAMSAY
JOHN
MARGARET HENDERSON/
02/12/1842
436/
40 440
Kilconquhar

RAMSAY
JOHN
MARGARET HENDERSON/
19/11/1842
447/
60 31
Markinch
 

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1871
Registration District: Glenisla
Civil Parish: Glenisla
County: Forfarshire (Angus)
Roll CSSCT1871_56
ED: 4
Schedule No: 14
Address:
John Grewar 57 Farmer
Maryann Grewar 59
+ children
James Ramsay Grandson 7 Scholar Glenisla

I can't find that John and wife in 1851.


John Grewar & Mary in 1861.

John Ramsay & wife Margaret in 1861 ?

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No death in Scotland 1864 - 1920 for a Margaret Ramasy with other surname = Grewer/Grewar

No death in Qld. for a Margaret Ramsay with father = Grewar.

I can't find a marriage for a John Grewar to a Mary/MaryAnn/Mary Ann/Marian


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GREWAR
MARGARET
JOHN GREWAR/MAY MCDOUGALL
F
09/01/1844
290/
20 88
Glenisla

Could be 21 in 1864.
 
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Others 1835 - 1845 with father = John

GREWAR
WILLIAM
JOHN GREWAR/MAY MCDOUGALL
M
25/07/1842
290/
20 73
Glenisla

GREWAR
ELISABETH
JOHN GREWAR/MAY MCPHERSON
F
25/11/1845
290/
20 96
Glenisla
 

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