JOHN RICHARD BARLOW my Grandfather

[mikehardy]

Hi, Having subscribed to A**** I am having no luck in tracing his death, My mum said he died in the great war but having looked on the military records cannot trace his death in action. There is a Richard John Barlow of West Bromwich who was killed in action.

The 1911 census gives his address then he must have enlisted in the army in 1914 with his address? Is there a way of confirming that John Richard Barlow DoB 1880, joined up and was killed in action?

Mike.

 

[ptjw7]

Found these :-
Name:BARLOW, John R
Unit:Royal Field Artillery
Rank:Gunner
Number:701574
Year:1917
Volume :A.3
Page:156

Name:BARLOW, James R J
Unit:Hertfordshire Regiment
Rankrivate
Number:203787
Year:1918
Volume :I.65
Page:438

 

[davelambert271]

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919

Name:
John Barlow

Birth Place:
West Bromwich, Staffs

Death Date:
3 Sep 1916

Death Location:
France & Flanders

Enlistment Location:
Bedworth, Warwicks

Rank:
Private

Regiment:
Royal Warwickshire Regiment

Battalion:
2nd Battalion

Number:
11987

Type of Casualty:
Killed in action

Theatre of War:
Western European Theatre

 

[mikehardy]

Thanks Dave, how can I be sure the John Barlow you refer to is the same person as John Richard Barlow living at 6 Harvills Hawthorn, Hill Top, West Bromwich in 1911. (1911 census)

 

[gortonboy]

If you have Ancestry ,,,you would have to see if a service record survives for that John Barlow,,,you can search us hi service number,,,he has a medal card,,but they don't give any family details,,only his service record would record such details,,,,about two thirds of WW1 service records were destroyed by bombing during WW2,,So its a lottery if that record survives.

 

[mikehardy]

Thanks gortonboy, I am trying to establish if John Barlow and John Richard Barlow are the same person. I have tried Ancestry with name, address, service number, regiment etc. but nothing comes up for John Richard Barlow DoB 1880. I wonder if the historian (?) at the Royal Warwickshire regiment HQ might have his service record? if not - will have to wait until the 1921 census is published. Do you think posting on the military section would reveal any more info?.

 

[mikehardy]

Think I have sorted this death issue now. John/Phoebe Barlow had a second daughter Janet Barlow in 1918 so his death must be later. Have found a John R Barlow died in Jan 1933, Can I view his death certificate to get further details to make sure without paying £20 odd quid for a certificate only to find its the wrong person?:'(

They did move from West Bromwich to Birmingham before 1947 my earliest remembrance of my grandmother Phoebe.

 

[davelambert271]

BMD certificates cost £9.25 from GRO - http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/. Don't order them through a 3rd party as they will cost more, and take longer.

dave

 

[mikehardy]

Thanks Dave, and thanks for all your help in this matter. Can you view these certificates before you purchase?

 

[davelambert271]

No, but if you know a piece of essential info like a mothers maiden name on a birth cert. you can say you don't want the cert if the mothers name is something else

dave

 

[davelambert271]

you could check this site, but it will cost

https://www.forces-war-records.co.u...ameNamePlaceholderText=Surname&Surname=barlow