John Robert SADLER

[DaveHam9]

John Robert b. 1 Jul 1838 c. 12 Aug 1838 St Luke Finsbury, Middlesex, England
John Robert SADLER & Jane
Batch: C020694
[occ baker - 7 Collingwood St]


Looking for the family in 1841 and 1851 thanks.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

1861
RG9 Piece 69 Folio 99 Page 32
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Eccl. parish: Trinity
County: Middlesex
Registration District: Marylebone
Sub-RD: All Souls
ED: 13
No of Schedule: 252
Address: Prince of Wales, Bolsover St
John Robert Sadler Head Mar 23 Turner City Road
Jane E Sadler Wife Mar 25 St George Middlesex

Yes, senior and junior both married a Jane.

 

[horse]

Nothing leaping out for 1841 & 51, Dave.. unless sr changed his occ?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

Then junior in those years??

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

1860 Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of St. Marylebone in the County of Middlesex
No. 390 18th November 1860
John Robert Sadler - of full age - Bachelor - Wood Turner - Marylebone - John Sadler - Licensed Victualler
Jane Eliza Edwards - of full age - Spinster - - - Marylebone - Abraham Edwards - Coachman
Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me, Edwd. Headland Curate
Parties signed: John Robert Sadler, Jane Eliza Edwards
Witnesses signed: Joseph Russell, Sarah Jay ? Edwards

 

[horse]

John Robert Sadler - of full age - Bachelor - Wood Turner - Marylebone - John Sadler - Licensed Victualler

Sr was a baker in 1838, there is a census with him as a beer maker when I find it

Geoff

 

[horse]

Not a lot of confidence in this...

1851
RD: Wandsworth
Church St
Ref: Piece: 1578; Folio: 289; Page: 6
Robert Sadler 35 [b. Wandsworth. Retailer of beer]
Jane Sadler 33
John Sadler 11 [b. Wandsworth]
Martha Sadler 7

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

I don't have the marriage and don't know Jane's maiden name and have not seen a Martha before so can't say yet if it fits.

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

??
SADLER, MARTHA RACHEL - HUGHES
GRO Reference: 1844 J Quarter in WANDSWORTH AND CLAPHAM UNION Volume 04 Page 529

 

[horse]

A few things not quite adding up in the early years?

Geoff

 

[horse]

GRO:
SADLER, JOHN
mmn = HUGHES
1840 Q2 WANDSWORTH AND CLAPHAM UNION
Volume 04 Page 488

Geoff

 

[horse]

Looks like the bap in post #1 is wrong, or other bits are?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

The census and Hughes may not fit.

Dave

 

[horse]

Thanks Geoff.

The census and Hughes may not fit.

True, that would be the other bits!

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

1861
Event Place:
Wandsworth, London, England, United Kingdom
Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Mary'S Summers Town
Registration District:
Wandsworth
Gender:
Female
Age:
16
Occupation:
Barmaid
Relationship to Head of Household:
Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated):
1845
Birthplace:
Wandsworth, Surrey
Page Number:
18
Registration Number:
RG09
Piece/Folio:
373 / 93
Affiliate Record Type:
Household
Household Role *** Age Birthplace
Robert Saddler Head Male 45 Wandsworth, Surrey
Jane Saddler Wife Female 43 Wandsworth, Surrey
John Saddler Son Male 20 Wandsworth, Surrey
Martha Saddler Daughter Female 16 Wandsworth, Surrey
Elizabeth Saddler Sister Female 49 Wandsworth, Surrey

 

[DaveHam9]

This is very confusing.

1871
RG10 Piece 249 Folio 99 Page 50
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Eccl. parish: St Luke
County: Middlesex
Registration District: Pancras
Sub-RD: Kentish Town
ED: 42
No of Schedule: 265
Address: 155 Leighton Rd
3 households at address
Jane Fairfull Lodger Widow 50 Lady's Nurse Stratford Essex
Rose F Sadler Granddau 4mo Hackney Middlesex


Rose is John junior's daughter.

But

Thomas Fairfull
Spouse: Elizabeth Esther Sadler
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 1 Aug 1830
Parish: Whitechapel St Mary
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Register
Marriage 12 Mar 1831

 

[horse]

Yep, the 1861 census in post #2 is correct, so any Wandsworth material must be wrong.

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

FAIRFULL, EDWARD - SADLER
GRO Reference: 1848 S Quarter in EAST LONDON UNION Volume 02 Page 204

So Jane's maiden name is Sadler.

1851
HO107 Piece 1524 Folio 530 Page 53
Civil Parish: St Botolph Bishopsgate
County: Middlesex
Registration District: East London
Sub-RD: St Botolph
ED: 2e
No of Schedule:
Address:
Jane Fairfull Head Widow 30 Mile End
John Fairfull Son 12 Mile End
William Fairfull Son 9 Mile End
Edward Fairfull Son 2 Bishopsgate
Elizabeth Green Visitor 30

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, 1861 post #2 is ok.

So Jane Sadler married ... Fairfull.

FS has removed hundreds of marriages.

Dave

 

[horse]

Yes, 1861 post #2 is ok.

So Jane Sadler married ... Fairfull.

FS has removed hundreds of marriages.

Not seeing a marriage on Anc. either?

Geoff