John & Rosanna JONES

[DaveHam9]

NSW Bap V18473065 64/1847 JONES THOMAS T - JOHN - ROSANNA

Roman Catholic Baptisms Solemnized in the Township of Yass in the County of Murray and in the District Between the Lachlan and Murray River 1847
Thomas Treynor - John Jones & Rosanna Curtis Abode: Burrowa Quality or Profession: Flock Keeper When Born: April 20th 1847 When Baptised: May 17th 1847 By whom the Ceremony was performed: Charles Lovat R.C.C.

NSW Bap V18441900 30A/1844 JONES EDWARD T - JOHN - ROSANNA
Page 19
Baptisms Administered in the Parish of St. Saviour in the County of Argyle in the Year 1845
No. 280 When Baptised: ? [margin] March 1845 When Born: 26 Sepr. 1844 Edward Treanor - John & Rosanna Jones Abode: Towrang Quality or Profession: Labourer By whom the Ceremony was performed: William Sowerby

Looking for the deaths of John and Rosanna, thanks.

Their marriage ??

 

[gibbo]

Roman Catholic Baptisms Solemnized in the Township of Yass in the County of Murray and in the District Between the Lachlan and Murray River 1847
Thomas Treynor - John Jones & Rosanna Curtis Abode: Burrowa Quality or Profession: Flock Keeper When Born: April 20th 1847 When Baptised: May 17th 1847 By whom the Ceremony was performed: Charles Lovat R.C.C.

NSW Bap V18441900 30A/1844 JONES EDWARD T - JOHN - ROSANNA
Page 19
Baptisms Administered in the Parish of St. Saviour in the County of Argyle in the Year 1845
No. 280 When Baptised: ? [margin] March 1845 When Born: 26 Sepr. 1844 Edward Treanor - John & Rosanna Jones Abode: Towrang Quality or Profession: Labourer By whom the Ceremony was performed: William Sowerby

Looking for the deaths of John and Rosanna, thanks.

Their marriage ??

Im confused I couldnt find a death that would fit for Rosanna so looked for another marriage and found this..

401/1852 V1852401 96
TRENOR
JAMES
JONES
ROSANNA
LO

401/1852 V1852401 98
TRENOR
JAMES
JONES
ROSANNA
LD

Is that surname supposedly the same as the boys second name?? IF so why would she be married to a Jones and naming the kids with the surname of the fella she married later on. OR am i more confused than i first thought.

 

[gibbo]

There is also this marriage

70/1851 V185170 97
BYRNES
BERNARD
JONES
ROSANNA
LD

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I dunno.

It's all very odd because the 1844 baptism is CofE.

Or do we have 2x John and Rosanna ??

 

[DaveHam9]

Oh. Maiden name Curtis.

LD= RC St Mary's Sydney

LO= RC Goulburn

 

[DaveHam9]

Looking at all the RC burials in NSW.

JONES JOHN 713/1844 V1844713 140 AGE 41 - LA * I can't look that up being a volume past 123

JONES JOHN 1438/1847 V18471438 140 AGE 64 - LA= RC Sydney St James

JONES JOHN 697/1851 V1851697 118 AGE 40 - LE= RC Campbelltown, St John's * Shoemaker so ruled out

 

[DaveHam9]

It will be Tuesday next week when I can get to the library that has the early NSW films.

I can't find a death for ros* tr* that fits.

 

[DaveHam9]

I'm stuck.

 

[gibbo]

Might have found something???

Rosina or Rose Curtis
Principal
Australia, New South Wales, Index to Bounty Immigrants, 1828-1842
Immigration 26 December 1841
New South Wales, Australia
In care of Thomas Ryder and wife [cousins]
https://www.familysearch.org/search...=1542665&q.givenName=rosanna&q.surname=Curtis

Rosanna on the actual passenger list aged 16 native place Devonshire.
https://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/.../Lalla Rookh_26 Dec 1841/4_478200084.jpg&No=6

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

No marriage in NSW index for r* curtis.

I can't prove John was a convict , but ... it's not this one

https://convictrecords.com.au/convicts/treanor/john/61225

https://convictrecords.com.au/convicts/trainer/john/76230

John TRAINER Minerva 1821 Certificate of Freedom 2 Nov 1826 [4/4424; Reel 602]

 

[DaveHam9]

Thomas Trainer, one of 160 convicts transported on the Prince Regent, 17 September 1819.
Great Britain. Home Office. ; State Library of Queensland. ; Canberra A.C.T. : Australian Joint Copying Project ; 1948-1990
Criminal : Convict transportation registers [HO 11]
Sentence details: Convicted at Lancaster Quarter Session for a term of 7 years on 27 October 1818.
Vessel: Prince Regent.
Date of Departure: 17 September 1819.
Place of Arrival: New South Wales.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 88, Class and Piece Number HO11/3, Page Number 232

John Trainer, one of 172 convicts transported on the Minerva, 26 July 1821.
Great Britain. Home Office. ; State Library of Queensland. ; Canberra A.C.T. : Australian Joint Copying Project ; 1948-1990
Criminal : Convict transportation registers [HO 11]
Sentence details: Convicted at Lancaster Quarter Session for a term of 7 years on 25 October 1819.
Vessel: Minerva.
Date of Departure: 26 July 1821.
Place of Arrival: New South Wales.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 88, Class and Piece Number HO11/4, Page Number 75 (39)

 

[DaveHam9]

Who is James that Rosanna married in 1852 ?

If the two are children of John T and Rosanna then his name is the middle name and he changed his surname to Jones.

So a death for John T before 1852.

 

[DaveHam9]

??
James Trainer, one of 186 convicts transported on the Lord Goderich, 26 June 1841.
Great Britain. Home Office. ; State Library of Queensland. ; Canberra A.C.T. : Australian Joint Copying Project ; 1948-1990
Criminal : Convict transportation registers [HO 11]
Sentence details: Convicted at Cheshire Quarter Sessions for a term of 7 years on 30 November 1840.
Vessel: Lord Goderich.
Date of Departure: 26 June 1841.
Place of Arrival: Van Diemen's Land.
Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 91, Class and Piece Number HO11/12, Page Number 349 (176)

 

[Ellie7]

James Trenor?
Marriage Date: 1852
Marriage Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Date: 1852
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Spouse: Rosanna Jones
Volume Number: V

 

[Ellie7]

James Traine ?
rMarriage Date: 1854
Marriage Place: Albury, New South Wales
Registration Date: 1854
Registration Place: Albury, New South Wales, Australia
Spouse: Mary Cummins
Volume Number: V B

 

[Ellie7]

Name: John Trainer
Arrival Date: 1821
Vessel: Minerva
Province: New South Wales
Title: General muster M - Z
Year(s): 1825
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Ellie.