John STUART/STEWART

[DaveHam9]

1881
RG11 Piece 3904 Folio 57 Page 57
Civil Parish: Gorton
County: Lancashire
Registration District: Chorlton
Sub-RD: Ardwick
Address: 697 Hyde Road
Albert Stuart Head Mar 39 Blacksmith Midlothian Scotland
Louisa Stuart Wife 33 Ashford Kent
Fanny Skitton dau 13 Scholar Ashford Kent
Charles Skitton son 11 Scholar Ashford Kent
Annie Skitton dau 4 Scholar Ashford Kent
John Stuart son 10 Scholar Doncaster Yorkshire
Annie Stuart dau 8 Scholar Doncaster Yorkshire

Death 12045/1928 STUART JOHN - ALBERT E 57 YRS ASHFIELD ** 11 Aug

The Sydney Morning Herald - Tuesday 28 August 1928 p.5
LATE MR. JOHN STUART.
The death occurred recently of Mr. John Stuart, Grand District Secretary of the Ancient Order of Foresters. Mr. Stuart was a native of Manchester, and came to Australia when he was 14 years old ...

John STUART/STEWART arrived about 1884. ???

 

[gibbo]

John Stuart son 10 Scholar Doncaster Yorkshire

The Sydney Morning Herald - Tuesday 28 August 1928 p.5
LATE MR. JOHN STUART.
The death occurred recently of Mr. John Stuart, Grand District Secretary of the Ancient Order of Foresters. Mr. Stuart was a native of Manchester, and came to Australia when he was 14 years old ...

The census has Doncaster Yorkshire and the obit has native of Manchester??

 

[emeltee]

If he lived in Chorlton, which now part of Greater Manchester, maybe whoever wrote the obit thought he came from.

Emeltee

 

[DaveHam9]

Age at death fits with census so if obit is correct he arrived abt 1884 probably not alone. Parents or brothers or sisters, don't know. ??

 

[gibbo]

Age at death fits with census so if obit is correct he arrived abt 1884 probably not alone. Parents or brothers or sisters, don't know. ??

Im on to it :biggrin: I should have him found today :2fun::2fun:

 

[DaveHam9]

Can Albert Edward and Louisa and remaining family be found in 1891?

??
Louisa Stuart
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
County Lancashire
Parish Gorton
Ecclesiastical Parish ALL SAINTS
Registration District Chorlton
Residence Note Gorton Brook Street
Gender Female
Age 43
Marital Status Married
Occupation Dressmaker
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1848
Birthplace Kent, England
Page Number 7
Registration Number RG12
Piece/Folio 3172/ 7


I can't find Albert.

 

[gibbo]

I want to check this list out but the damn archive site is on a go slow and the passenger list wont open for me.

STEWART Adam 28 Bann 1884 Sydney and family
STEWART Arthur 3 Bann 1884 Sydney and family
STEWART Elizabeth 34 Bann 1884 Sydney and husband
STEWART John 35 Bann 1884 Sydney and wife
STEWART John 13 Bann 1884 Sydney
STEWART John 28 Bann 1884 Sydney
STEWART Joseph 1 Bann 1884 Sydney and family
STEWART Margaret 27 Bann 1884 Sydney and family

 

[DaveHam9]

Second marriage so it explains the two different family names for the children in 1881:

Marriages Sep Qtr 1879
STUART Albert Edward W. Ashford 2a 1043
SKELTON Louisa W. Ashford 2a 1043

 

[horse]

Louisa was a widow by 1901..

1891
Civil Parish: Gorton
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County: Lancashire
RD: Chorlton
ED: 45; Piece: 3172; Folio: 7; Page: 7

Louisa Stuart 43 head [b. Mersham. Dressmaker]
Charles Stuart 21 son [Willesborough, Kent. Something Brass]
Ellen L Stuart 19 dau [do. Dressmaker]
Annie G Stuart 14 dau [b. Ashford. Scholar] Image says Annie G Skelton

1901
Civil Parish: South Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Longsight St Clement
County: Lancashire
RD: Chorlton
Sub-RD: Ardwick
ED: 098; Piece: 3687; Folio: 148; Page: 37

Louisa Stuart 53 wid [b. Mersham. Dressmaker]

Geoff

 

[horse]

1911
Civil Parish: South Manchester
County: Lancashire
Street address: 192 Broom Lane Levenshulme Manchester
Marital Status: Widowed
RD: Chorlton
RD No: 464

George Cuthbert Baines 30 [b. Manchester. Engineer's tool fitter]
Rosie Pamela Baines 26 wife [do]
Louisa Stuart 62 M-i-L. Wid [b. Ashford. Monthly nurse]

Marriages Q3 1909
BAINES George Cuthbert
EVANS Harry
LLOYD Marie
RAPPE Rosie Pamela S
STUART Rosie Pamela
Chorlton
8c, 1789

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks Geoff.

So parents stayed in England.

Who is Rosie Rappe/Stuart?

Dave

 

[horse]

Who is Rosie Rappe/Stuart?

Difficult to say, done by 2 different transcribers on FreeBDM.

The census indicates she must be a dau

Geoff

 

[horse]

There is this..

Births Q4 1884
Stuart Rosie Pamela
Chorlton
8c, 772

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

There is this..

Births Q4 1884
Stuart Rosie Pamela
Chorlton
8c, 772

Geoff

Thanks Geoff.

So, where is Albert in 1891?

I can't see his death in Lancs.

 

[horse]

Thanks Geoff.

So, where is Albert in 1891?

I can't see his death in Lancs.

Can't see him either, just know he had d. before 1901

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Hmmm.

Death 11605/1894 STUART ALBERT E - RICHARD O - HARRIET - REDFERN * 20 Jan

 

[horse]

Oh! A possible connection with Rappe

Civil Parish: Moss Side
Ecclesiastical parish: Longsight St John
County: Lancashire
RD: Chorlton
ED: 88; Piece: 3202; Folio: 113; Page: 12

Gustaf Rappe 33 [b. Sweden. Agent]
Fanny Rappe 20 [b. Rugby, Staffordshire]
Rose Stuart 6 visitor [b. Manchester]

Geoff

 

[horse]

Hmmm.

Death 11605/1894 STUART ALBERT E - RICHARD O - HARRIET - REDFERN * 20 Jan

Did a runner?

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

Dunno if that's him. Can't find age at death or a birth /baptism in Midlothian that fits.

 

[DaveHam9]

1871
RG10 Piece 4719 Folio 119 Page 2
Civil Parish: Christ Church
County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
Registration District: Doncaster
Sub-RD: Doncaster
ED: 16
Household Schedule: 7
Address:
Albert Stewart Head 28 Blacksmith Edinburgh Scotland
Maria Stewart Wife 25 Sheffield Yorkshire
Betsy Stewart dau 8 Doncaster Yorkshire
Malcolm Stewart son 6 Doncaster Yorkshire
Maria Stewart dau 4 Doncaster Yorkshire
Margaret Stewart dau 2 Doncaster Yorkshire
John Stewart son 0 Doncaster Yorkshire


Marriage of Albert & Maria?

Albert in 1861 and 1851 ?