John SWEENEY & Anne MARNEY

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

Marriages Jun 1866 - Lambeth 1d 629
SWEENEY John & Marney Ann

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
John Sweeney
Age: Full Age
Spouse - Ann Marney
Marriage.
Date - 14 May 1866
Parish - Lambeth St Mary
Borough - Lambeth
Father -Timothy Sweeney
Spouse Father - Michael Marney
Parish Register
[John: Bach., Labourer, abode: both at Union St., Father Bricklayer, dec.
Ann: Spin., Full, Father labourer]


Assisted to NSW - Arrived 16 Feb 1867
SWEENEY John 24 Burlington 1867 Sydney and wife Reel 2140, [4/4789]; Reel 2485, [4/4992]
SWEENEY Anne 20 Burlington 1867 Sydney and husband Reel 2140, [4/4789]; Reel 2485, [4/4992]

John 24 Labourer - Skibbereen Co Cork - ...? & Johanna Campbelltown Sydney - RC Read & Write - Parents & brothers at Campbelltown Sydney

Anne 20 Wife - London ? - ...? & Ellen ...? London ? - RC Read & Write - No Relations in Colony

arrival: Burlington
Origin: London 1866 Nov 9
Destination: 1867 Feb 16

I'm having problems reading the shipping image so thanks to the marriage details we can fill in the missing names.

I wonder when they arrived in England from Ireland?

When did Timothy & Johanna and sons arrive in Australia?

Dave

 

[gibbo]

A death notice for a possible brother to John.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/art...ney"&searchLimits=exactPhrase=timothy+sweeney

711/1916 SWEENEY TIMOTHY 59 YRS REDFERN REDFERN

 

[gibbo]

Dont know if this means anything.. I think maybe Timothy the hubby might have come out here earlier maybe?? I havent checked the passenger list yet just the indexes.;

SWEENEY James 22 Dirigo 1860 Sydney
SWEENEY Johanna 38 Dirigo 1860 Sydney and son
SWEENEY Mary 28 Dirigo 1860 sydney
SWEENEY Michael 18 Dirigo 1860 Sydney and mother


Johanna and Michael are on the list of " husband in colony"

 

[DaveHam9]

A death notice for a possible brother to John.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/art...ney"&searchLimits=exactPhrase=timothy+sweeney

711/1916 SWEENEY TIMOTHY 59 YRS REDFERN REDFERN

Thanks gibbo.

That one was from Limerick. Not sure he is part of same family.

 

[DaveHam9]

Dont know if this means anything.. I think maybe Timothy the hubby might have come out here earlier maybe?? I havent checked the passenger list yet just the indexes.;

SWEENEY James 22 Dirigo 1860 Sydney
SWEENEY Johanna 38 Dirigo 1860 Sydney and son
SWEENEY Mary 28 Dirigo 1860 sydney
SWEENEY Michael 18 Dirigo 1860 Sydney and mother


Johanna and Michael are on the list of " husband in colony"

Oh. Johanna and son Michael. So that means there is one more son. Timothy arrived earlier with one son it seems.

Wives of Relatives in the Colony
Johanna 38 House Servt. Cork R.Cath. Neither R.R.
Michael 18 Labourer Cork R.Cath. Neither R.R.

R.R. = Remittance Regulations - that means someone in the colony (Timothy) paid a deposit.


The other two are from Tipperary.

 

[gibbo]

OH NO whats going on here

Empire (Sydney, NSW : 1850 - 1875)
Wednesday 11 April 1855

Sweeney, Johanna --Name of Depositor Timothy Sweeney
Michael Ditto
John ? Ditto
Timothy Ditto

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/art...ney"&searchLimits=exactPhrase=timothy+sweeney

 

[DaveHam9]

I dunno. :biggrin:

Possible death 5538/1875 SWEENEY TIMOTHY - MICHAEL DIED CAMPBELLTOWN CAMPBELLTOWN

5763/1889 SWEENEY JOHANNA - TIMOTHY - MARY - WATERLOO
10663/1893 SWEENEY JOHANNA - UNKNOWN REGAN - UNKNOWN NEWTOWN
10699/1903 SWEENEY JOHANNA - MARRICKVILLE


So the 'Speedy' arrived 9 April 1855 and there is no Johanna Sweeney on the list on page 12 under heading 'Wife of person Resident in the colony'

 

[gibbo]

Maybe for what ever reason they missed the boat Then come out later.

 

[gibbo]

NSW death index

63/1919 SWEENEY JOHN father TIMOTHY mother JOHANNA SYDNEY

 

[DaveHam9]

It does look as if Johanna and Michael arrived 1860 instead of 1855. That leaves son Timothy to arrive sometime. I didn't see any Sweeney single males on 'Speedy' in 1855. And father Timothy to have arrived before 1855.

John arrived with wife 1867.

 

[DaveHam9]

NSW death index

63/1919 SWEENEY JOHN father TIMOTHY mother JOHANNA SYDNEY

Yes. That is the father of the one that makes the connection in my tree.

 

[gibbo]

You need anything else Dave?

 

[DaveHam9]

Did we tie up the loose ends? :biggrin:

I'm not too bothered about son Timothy but would like to get father's arrival if possible and confirm his death is 1875.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Friday 24 December 1875 p.7
DEATHS
SWEANEY.-Dec. 7, Campbelltown, Mr. Timothy Sweaney, in the 78th year of his age.

 

[gibbo]

I found this

Timothy SWEENEY was born in 1797 in Skibbereen, Cork, Ireland. He died on 7 Dec 1875 in Campbelltown, NSW, Australia. He married Joanne PIGOTT in 1837 in ,Ireland.

Joanne PIGOTT was born in 1821 in Skibbereen, Cork, Ireland. She died on 24 Aug 1903 in Marrickville, Sydney, NSW, Australia. She married Timothy SWEENEY in 1837 in ,Ireland.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

That's the place in Cork on the shipping record 1867 for son John that started me off searching for parents.

10699/1903 SWEENEY JOHANNA - MARRICKVILLE

 

[gibbo]

I cant find Timothy's snr arrival

Hi Geoff :biggrin:

 

[DaveHam9]

I can't either.

I'll sleep on that note. Catch you tomorrow.

 

[gibbo]

I cant find death notices for Johanna or Timothy snr neither

Just seen the death notice you posted. No wonder i couldnt find it, the spelling thing happening

Ok. Nite

 

[gibbo]

I just cant find Timothy snr arrival
Just on the off chance i tried QLD, VIC and Tassie but nothing.

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks gibbo.

I'd say we are done with this one then.