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John Thomas Bedford

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Hi Steve

Catching up with various posts !!

A Stamper could also be someone who worked in the Stamp Office, Somerset House in the Income Tax dept. People had to pay tax and they used stamps on various documents so that the Govt. could raise money. He may have then trained in situ as an Auditor or Accountant.

Somerset House not far from Holborn

Food for thought?!!!

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I have found John Thomas Bedfords marriage to Henrietta Sarah Wilmot in May 14th 1863.
I had a job finding it because his name was transcribed as John James Bedford.
Also on the London, marriage and banns transcriptions, they were down as John Thomas Badford and Harrietta Sarah Wilmot.
Looking at the originals, I could see the mistake.

Once I had realised that in the 1881 census for these folk, there was a Marian Wilmot, who was a niece, it gave me an extra clue who to look for. So I searched for Henrietta S. Wilmot, and came up trumps.
Also found her death in 1889.

And John's father was listed as Thomas Bedford occ.Victualler on his first marriage.
But on his second marriage he is listed as Joshua Thomas Bedford occ. Undertaker.

Phewweeeeeee.:D

Thanks to Julie, more rellies to hunt down.:biggrin:

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Hi Steve

1891 census, the big "A" has him transcribed as John DEWARD b.1813.

Rg12
Piece:123
Folio:114
Page:38

He is living at 9 Mecklenburgh Square with four sons.

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Thanks CP,

His occupation is Journalist/Auditor as I read it. But someone has put AUTHOR next to the entry.
Have I read that right.
And St.Sepulchre, as POB, as I read it.

Sorry, but my peepers are a bit suspect. The more I magnify it, the worse it gets.:rolleyes: :)

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Thanks CP,

His occupation is Journalist/Auditor as I read it. But someone has put AUTHOR next to the entry.
Have I read that right.
And St.Sepulchre, as POB, as I read it.

Sorry, but my peepers are a bit suspect. The more I magnify it, the worse it gets.:rolleyes: :)

Steve.:)
Hi Steve

Actually how I found it was through the other mob who has him transcribed as John T BEDFORD.

Bedford, John T
Registration Number: Rg12
Piece:123
Folio:114
Page:38
Registration District:pancras
Sub District:Gray's Inn Lane
Enumeration District:7
Ecclesiastical Parish:St Peters
Civil Parish:St Pancras
Parliamentary Borough:South St Pancras
Address:9 Mecklenburgh Square
County: London,Middlesex

John T Bedford Head Widower M 78 Journalist Auditor St Sepulchre, London
Allis Bedford Son Single M 26 Commercial Clerk St Sepulchre, London
Herbert Bedford Son Single M 24 Commercial Clerk St Sepulchre, London
John J Bedford Son Single M 21 Commercial Clerk St Pancras, London
Frank Bedford Son Single M 15 Scholar St Pancras, London
Sarah A Oldaker Servant Widow F 40 Domestic Servant St Clement,Oxford
Annie G Humphrey Servant Single F 21 Domestic Servant ?, Middlesex
Beatrice Mudey Servant Single F 17 Domestic Servant Camberwell, Surrey
Elizabeth Burris Visitor Single F 48 Retired Teacher St Sepulchre, London

Sons Allis (Ellis), Herbert, John J, Frank

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I think I have a huge problem.

I traced Eliza Kellow Pooks parents, to 1861, where they have a grandaughter Elen/Ellen/Helen Bedford 1848 (Bagshot, Surrey) with them.

I have then followed Helen to 1851 and found her with parents John S.Bedford. 1821. Thenford, Norfolk. And Elizabeth H.Bedford. 1831 - Reading.
All living in Oxfordshire.

Eliza Kellows Parents.
William Pook. 1811- Somerset.
Elizabeth Pook. 1806 - Stoke Winterbourne, Wiltshire.

ALL INFO AS TRANSCRIBED.

Is this now the right Elizabeth for John Thomas Bedford. I don't think so.

I am now getting so despondent.

Need urgent help please.

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Wife to John Thomas Bedford is Elizabeth Price, according to Walter Mancel Bedfords birth cert.

And he was born Notting Hill, Middlesex. So the School at Iver, Buckinghamshire in 1861 seems to be him.

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Found 4 children chr to John Thomas & Henrietta Sarah
St Sepulchre Holborn

Ellis b 12 Aug 1864 chr 4 Nov 1864 12 King St, Stamper

Herbert b 23 Jan 1867 chr 23 May 1868 9 Mecklenburg Sq, Stamper

John Russell b 27 July 1869 chr 10 Oct 1871 9 Mecklenburg Sq, Stamper

Frank b 10 July 1875 chr 3 April 1876 9 Mecklenburg Sq, Stamper

Does this confuse things???
 

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Found 4 children chr to John Thomas & Henrietta Sarah
St Sepulchre Holborn

Ellis b 12 Aug 1864 chr 4 Nov 1864 12 King St, Stamper

Herbert b 23 Jan 1867 chr 23 May 1868 9 Mecklenburg Sq, Stamper

John Russell b 27 July 1869 chr 10 Oct 1871 9 Mecklenburg Sq, Stamper

Frank b 10 July 1875 chr 3 April 1876 9 Mecklenburg Sq, Stamper

Does this confuse things???
Thanks Trace,

They are from his 2nd marriage to Henrietta Willmot.

Thanks for the reminder, I need to update them. I had started, but I got sidetracked as usual.:)

Many thanks.

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