John Tredwell + Martha. Bicester, Oxfordshire.

[p.risboy]

John Tredwell(Farmer of Bicester) married Martha Honnor(of Great Missenden), 1820 @ Great Missenden.

Marriage - 11 Dec 1820. by Licence.(Granted 9th Dec.)
John TREDWELL, Bachelor of Bicester Kings End, Oxfordshire
Martha HONNOR, Spinster of of this parish
Witnesses - Thomas Ives & Mary Honnor.

Martha Honnor, possibly born c1799 @ Greenford, Middlesex.

I can find no baptisms in Bicester to this couple.?

Can they be seen in 1841 census, or after please.

Steve.

 

[emeltee]

1841 HO107/886/11/F4

Middleton Grounds, Middleton Stoney, Bicester

John Tredwell 50 Farmer Born in County
Martha 50 Born in county
plus 2 male and 1 female servants

1851 HO107/1729/F39

Chesterton, Bicester

John Tredwell 65 Ret. Frmer Chesterton
Martha Tredwell wife 67 Missenden
Sarah Hall Robins single 20 Visitor Missenden
plus one female servant

1861 RG09/898/F47/p8

Chesterton, Bicester

John Tredwell 73 Ret. Farmer Chesterton
Martha Tredwell 77 Prestwood
plus 1 female servant

Deaths

Martha Tredwell Mar 1862 Bicester 3a 388 age 78
John Tredwell Mar 1871 Bicester 3a 473 age 85

Ages are all over the place and she wasn't born in Greenford but I'm sure it's the right couple from the marriage

Emeltee

 

[p.risboy]

Martha Tredwell. buried 15 March 1862 @ Chesterton. aged 78. So a birth year of 1784 +/- a year or two.

So that cancels her out for the one baptised Greenford. Or does it.

I'll need to check Great Missenden PR's again.

John Tredwell was buried 12 Jan 1871, aged 85.

From OxFHS - Chesterton PR's.

Steve.

 

[p.risboy]

Great Missenden Baptism. 1 Jan 1784. Martha daughter of Thos & Ann.

No marriage for Thos(Thomas) & Ann in Great Missenden.

Oh well, that's for another day.:biggrin:

 

[emeltee]

Possible birth for John

John Tredwell bapt. 8 Oct 1786 Chesterton parents William and Ann

Can't see anything for Martha though.

Emeltee

 

[p.risboy]

How about this marriage for Martha Honnor......and can they be found in the census.

Name - Thomas Bishop
Spouse - Martha Honoier
Event Date - 4 Dec 1820
Event Place - Great Gaddesden, Hertfordshire.

Lydia Maria Bishop
Event Type - Baptism
Christening Date - 29 Jul 1821
Christening Place - Bovingden, Hertfordshire
Father's Name - Thomas Bishop
Mother's Name - Martha Bishop.

Name Martha Bishop
Event Type Death
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1873
Registration District Hitchin
County Hertfordshire
Event Place Hitchin, Hertfordshire, England
Age (available after 1866) 73
Birth Year (Estimated) 1800
Volume 3A
Page 205
Line Number 44


Steve.

 

[emeltee]

I think I may have sorted what happened to Martha Honnor born Greenford.

Martha Honnor married George Woodbridge 14 Oct 1821 St Peter, Kent

Can't find them in 1841 but she appears in 1851 aged 55 as a lodger with a Thomas and Mary Weedon in Great Missenden. She is down as married but no sign of husband and occ. is given as Independent and pob Greenford

In 1861 she is in Hayes, Middlesex now a widow aged 65 as a visitor to a Thomas and Sophia Shackle occ. now Fundholder pob still Greenford

In 1871 aged 74 she back in Gt Missenden still a Fundholder born Greenford.
With her are Owen Taplin 39 son in law occ Lately a Farmer born West Drayton
Elizabeth Taplin 49 her daughter born Greenford
Sophia Woodbridge her unmarried sister in law aged 78 also born Greenford

She died 16 April 1769
Ref Martha WoodbridgeJune 1879 Amersham 3a 307 aged 83

Probate - estate under £100 Elizabeth Taplin (Widow) executor

Meanwhile I have found George Woodbridge in 1851 in West Horsley, Guildford. He is a farmer of 250 acres employing 15 labourers. With him are his unmarried sisters Ann and Sophia and his daughter Elizabeth all born Greenford

George dies 27 Dec 1860 aged 67
Ref is George Woodbridge Mar 1861 Guidford 2a 35
Estate under £1000 Owen Taplin, farmer, executor

Good, eh? Hope you managed to follow it all.

Emeltee

 

[p.risboy]

Well done MLT.....you're a star.

Burial - 24 Apr 1879. Martha WOODBRIDGE, aged 83 of Great Missenden.
Burial - 14 May 1875. Owen TAPLIN ,aged 44 of Great Missenden.
Burial - 10 Apr 1889. Elizabeth TAPLIN, aged 68 of Gt Missenden.

And........is this her daughter as a witness:

Marriage - 1 Jun 1848. by Licence
James TILLYER, aged fa, Bachelor of Oxford St, London, Oilman son of Robert Tillyer, Farmer
Elizabeth HONNOR, aged fa, Spinster of Rignalls, Gt Miss daughter of Joseph Honnor, Gentleman
Witnesses - J A Thomas, Ellen Honnor Batt, Ann Palmer Tillyer.
Other witness: Elizabeth Woodbridge

Marriage - Robert Tillyer to Ann Palmer, 16th Aug 1812 @ Datchet, Berkshire/Bucks.


Steve.

 

[p.risboy]

Just goes to show, how witnesses are important on certificates and parish registers.

Ellen Honnor Batt, is the daughter of Elizabeth Renshaw Honnor, and James Batt. (She married Edward Curteis).
Elizabeth Woodbridge is the daughter of Martha Honnor & George Woodbridge.
Ann Palmer Tillyer is the sister in law to James Tillyer.

Plus the Shackle connection.........

Elizabeth Ann Sophia Batt, married Thomas Shackle in 1862, and she died a few months later.

I think I worked that out correctly.?

Thanks again MLT.


Steve.