John Tunbridge, No:1561, 43rd Regiment of Foot

[philrobenn]

Hi

I'm hoping that someone just maybe able to help me with some research I'm doing in regards to a John Tunbridge, my 3 x Great Grandmother's second husband.

While I do have some records and information on him it is rather spare. The main reason will be that he did die at Fort St George, Madras, India in 1854. I have the WO12/5609 which states his death date and particulars such as service number, rank. I also have the Parish Church record of his burial. What I would like to know, could there be some sort of attestation record which would indicate more personal information, such as where born, attestation date, age, and general description etc. Would there be something available in the British Regimental Records concerning this from India? Why I ask this, is that I do have exactly those records concerning my 3 x Great Grandfather, who died in Canada in 1842, he being the first husband.

I look forward to any suggestions or thoughts you may have.

Regards
Phil Bennett

 

[DaveHam9]

Found nothing on John in this database.

https://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/

Dave

EDIT: I didn't search Turnbridge.

 

[Ellie7]

John Tunbridge
Gender Male
Burial Date 20 Jul 1854
Burial Place Madras, Madras, India
Death Date 19 Jul 1854
Age 32
Birth Date 1822
Marital Status Unknown


ellie

 

[Ellie7]

The Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry (The 43rd/52nd Regiment of Foot).
Author:
Philip Booth
Publisher:
London, Leo Cooper, 1971.
Series:
Famous regiments.
43rd (Monmouthshire) Regiment of Foot. The 43rd (Monmouthshire) Regiment of Foot was an infantry regiment of the British Army, raised in 1741. Under the Childers Reforms it amalgamated with the 52nd (Oxfordshire) Regiment of Foot (Light Infantry) to form the 1st and 2nd battalions of the Oxfordshire Light Infantry in 1881.

edit-Indian Mutiny[edit]
The 43rd moved from South Africa to India arriving at Madras in January 1854.[54] The regiment assisted in putting down the Indian Mutiny from 1857 to 1859. In the campaign, the regiment marched 1,300 miles in six months; from Southern India to Bengal[55] and engaged in many actions with the enemy along the way. The regiment also won its first Victoria Cross awarded to Henry Addison in 1859.[56]

The army records at Kew should have records.

 

[Ellie7]

Henry Hardevick Turnbridge
Gender Male
Christening Date 11 Jan 1854
Christening Place Madras, Madras, India
Birth Date 07 Dec 1853
Father's Name John Turnbridge
Mother's Name Mary


Ellie

 

[Ellie7]

William Farrer
Birth Date
1822
Age
33
Spouse's Name
Mary Tunbridge
Spouse's Birth Date
1821
Spouse's Age
34
Event Date
05 Feb 1855
Event Place
Madras, Madras, India
Father's Name
Henry Farrer
Spouse's Father's Name
William Johnson
Marital Status
Widowed
Spouse's Marital Status
Widowed

Is this wifes second marriage?

 

[Ellie7]

Will of Francis Augustus Brett, Ensign in 43rd regiment of Madras Infantry
Prerogative Court of Canterbury and related Probate Jurisdictions: Will Registers. Volume number: 9 Quire numbers: 401-450. Will of Francis Augustus Brett, Ensign in 43rd regiment of Madras Infantry.

Held by: The National Archives - Prerogative Court of Canterbury
Date: 02 June 1856
Reference: PROB 11/2233/327
Subjects: Army | Wills and probate

Never came across a will but you may like to search.

Ellie

 

[philrobenn]

Found nothing on John in this database.

https://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/

Dave

EDIT: I didn't search Turnbridge.

Thanks Dave.

Phil

 

[philrobenn]

John Tunbridge
Gender Male
Burial Date 20 Jul 1854
Burial Place Madras, Madras, India
Death Date 19 Jul 1854
Age 32
Birth Date 1822
Marital Status Unknown


ellie

Hi Ellie
Thanks very much for your findings. I do have the St Mary's Register with the entry on John Tunbridge's death and where he is buried.
Phil

 

[philrobenn]

The Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry (The 43rd/52nd Regiment of Foot).
Author:
Philip Booth
Publisher:
London, Leo Cooper, 1971.
Series:
Famous regiments.
43rd (Monmouthshire) Regiment of Foot. The 43rd (Monmouthshire) Regiment of Foot was an infantry regiment of the British Army, raised in 1741. Under the Childers Reforms it amalgamated with the 52nd (Oxfordshire) Regiment of Foot (Light Infantry) to form the 1st and 2nd battalions of the Oxfordshire Light Infantry in 1881.

edit-Indian Mutiny[edit]
The 43rd moved from South Africa to India arriving at Madras in January 1854.[54] The regiment assisted in putting down the Indian Mutiny from 1857 to 1859. In the campaign, the regiment marched 1,300 miles in six months; from Southern India to Bengal[55] and engaged in many actions with the enemy along the way. The regiment also won its first Victoria Cross awarded to Henry Addison in 1859.[56]

The army records at Kew should have records.

Hi Ellie

Many thanks again for the above information. There was actually a documented history done on the 43rd Regiment in 1868, of which I have a reprinted copy. It covers the period from 1739 - 1867.

Phil

 

[philrobenn]

Henry Hardevick Turnbridge
Gender Male
Christening Date 11 Jan 1854
Christening Place Madras, Madras, India
Birth Date 07 Dec 1853
Father's Name John Turnbridge
Mother's Name Mary


Ellie

Hi Ellie

Many thanks again for the above. I do have this record as a Military Birth Certificate, but as yet haven't found a copy of the original Parish entry. Henry Hardwicke Tunbridge was one of the sons, actually born at sea just before their ship arrived in India. His full Military Record is available of which I have. Interestingly, all bar one of the Tunbridge children settled in Taranaki, New Zealand, as did my 2 X Great Grandfather (from the first marriage) and also the only surviving daughter of the Third marriage.

Phil

 

[philrobenn]

William Farrer
Birth Date
1822
Age
33
Spouse's Name
Mary Tunbridge
Spouse's Birth Date
1821
Spouse's Age
34
Event Date
05 Feb 1855
Event Place
Madras, Madras, India
Father's Name
Henry Farrer
Spouse's Father's Name
William Johnson
Marital Status
Widowed
Spouse's Marital Status
Widowed

Is this wifes second marriage?

Hi Ellie

This is my 3 x Great Grandmother's THIRD marriage. All of her marriages occurred within the Military. I have both the Military Marriage Cert and also the Parish Register Entry for this. Now oddly enough, having looked for something like 15 years we at present still cannot locate both of their deaths. Only one of her children didn't come to New Zealand from all three marriages. I have the full Military record for William Farrer (Corporal)and the last mention (confirmed) on him is picking up a pension in 1875 in Ipswich. He was discharged from the Regiment in 1861 when he returned to Norfolk. I was told that after 1875 the reporting of those pensions ceased?

Phil

 

[philrobenn]

Will of Francis Augustus Brett, Ensign in 43rd regiment of Madras Infantry
Prerogative Court of Canterbury and related Probate Jurisdictions: Will Registers. Volume number: 9 Quire numbers: 401-450. Will of Francis Augustus Brett, Ensign in 43rd regiment of Madras Infantry.

Held by: The National Archives - Prerogative Court of Canterbury
Date: 02 June 1856
Reference: PROB 11/2233/327
Subjects: Army | Wills and probate

Never came across a will but you may like to search.

Ellie

Hi Ellie

There wasn't a will for John Tunbridge, but I do have his Administration Papers which clearly state when first presented that the Lawyer knew where they both were in 1861. But when presented again, because the small amount of money that there was, hadn't been collected in 1868, the eldest son claimed the money then as even he didn't know there whereabouts!

Phil

 

[philrobenn]

Henry Hardevick Turnbridge
Gender Male
Christening Date 11 Jan 1854
Christening Place Madras, Madras, India
Birth Date 07 Dec 1853
Father's Name John Turnbridge
Mother's Name Mary


Ellie

Hi Ellie

The above entry for Henry Hardwicke Tunbridge's birth and baptism, I'm interesting in obtaining a copy of the Parish Registery Entry. I do have the actual Military Cert which states that info but it's always nice to be able to see the actual entry also. What you state, is that record an index from the Parish Entry? Look forward to hearing from you again soon.

Regards
Phil

 

[gortonboy]

John
Last name Tunbridge
*** Male
Service number 1561
Rank Private
Unit or regiment 43rd Foot
Sub unit Depot
Year 1841
Remarks -
Location Armagh & Londonderry
County Londonderry (Derry)
Country Ireland
The National Archive reference WO 12/5596
Record set British Army, Worldwide Index 1841

John
Last name Tunbridge
Name as transcribed John
Year 1851
Service number 1561
Rank Drummer & Fifer
Regiment or unit 43rd (The Monmouthshire) Regiment Of Foot
Period 01/01/1851-31/03/1851
Location Dublin, Ireland
The National Archives reference WO 12/5605
Record set British Army, Worldwide Index 1851

 

[gortonboy]

. Baptism

 

[philrobenn]

John
Last name Tunbridge
*** Male
Service number 1561
Rank Private
Unit or regiment 43rd Foot
Sub unit Depot
Year 1841
Remarks -
Location Armagh & Londonderry
County Londonderry (Derry)
Country Ireland
The National Archive reference WO 12/5596
Record set British Army, Worldwide Index 1841

John
Last name Tunbridge
Name as transcribed John
Year 1851
Service number 1561
Rank Drummer & Fifer
Regiment or unit 43rd (The Monmouthshire) Regiment Of Foot
Period 01/01/1851-31/03/1851
Location Dublin, Ireland
The National Archives reference WO 12/5605
Record set British Army, Worldwide Index 1851

Hi Gortonboy

Thanks for the above information which I do have. Have ordered the 1851 Muster Roll & Pay sheet and are awaiting on the National Archives at present. Something that you maybe able to help me with also. When each battalion is assigned to an overseas post, do they take a copy of the attestation with particulars and is that assigned to where the battalion is stationed? Reason I ask, is that I do have an attestation for the first husband who died in Canada. Would there be something concerning John Tunbridge in the British Library under the documentation for when the regiment was in India? Look forward to you reply. Many thanks

Phil

 

[philrobenn]

View attachment 4241 . Baptism

Hi Gortonboy

I take that this is the Parish Baptism for Henry Hardwicke Tunbridge? I cannot read it as it is so faint. Is this obtainable through any of the Genealogy Websites? Many thanks again, but just wish I could read it.

Phil

 

[Ellie7]

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[philrobenn]

Hi Ellie

Thanks for the new additions to Findmypast, have already looked but nothing there.

Phil