John WALLIS/WALLACE

[DaveHam9]

Yes, somehow.

This sorts them out:

CARROLL William Roslin Castle 1833 41/371 Ticket of Leave [4/4148; Reel 939] District: Wellington; Tried: Dublin CM

CARROLL William Roslin Castle 1833 41/630 Ticket of Leave [4/4149; Reel 939] District: Bathurst; Tried: Down Co

The Bathurst one aged 30 in 1833.

He died before the 1860 marriage and it's not the RC one by religion and by age so must be this one:

Death 2586/1858 CARROLL WILLIAM AGE 57 YEARS DIED BATHURST BATHURST

 

[DaveHam9]

Oh. One more at Bathurst:

CARROLL William Southworth 1822 30/836 Ticket of Leave [4/4077; Reel 914] District: Bathurst; Born: Cork; Trade: Labourer; Tried: Wexford Co

William Carroll
Details
Alias: Irish Rebel: Religion: Age on arrival: 30
Marital status:
Calling/trade: Ploughman
Born: 1792 Native place: Cork
Tried: 1821 Wexford Co Sentence: Life Former convictions:
Ship: Southworth (1) [1822]
Crime:
Description:
Remarks:
Spouse:
Died:

1858 death does not fit this one.

We have the 1855 burial RC aged 40 so there should be a death for one more William.

 

[DaveHam9]

Death 2182/1861 CARROLL WILLIAM AGE 50 YEARS DIED BATHURST BATHURST

Does not fit either.

 

[horse]

1858 death does not fit this one.

We have the 1855 burial RC aged 40 so there should be a death for one more William.

Bathurst, Dubbo, Braidwood

 

[DaveHam9]

We have two with ToL in Bathurst and only one death in Bathurst that fits.

If we assume the 1858 death is the right one I wonder if we can find who he married. Assuming for now it's this one:

William Carroll
Details
Alias: Irish Rebel: Religion: Protestant Age on arrival: 30
Marital status: Single
Calling/trade: Soldier footman groom
Born: 1803 Native place: Down Co
Tried: 1832 Dublin Court Martial Sentence: 14 Former convictions: 14 days
Ship: Roslin Castle (3) [1833]
Crime: Desertion
Description:
Remarks:
Spouse:
Died:

 

[horse]

William Carroll
Age: 33
Birth Year: Abt 1799
Spouse: Maria Dodd
Request Status: Granted
Date of Permission/Refusal: 26 Apr 1832

 

[DaveHam9]

Marriages in NSW for a William after 1833 ruling out the RC ones:

V18541109 41B/1854 CARROLL WILLIAM - BRISCOE ANN - CW= Church of England Abercrombie District, Bathurst

No sign of children.

Can't be the father of Jane.

We are stuck.

 

[horse]

William Carroll
Age: 33
Birth Year: Abt 1799
Spouse: Maria Dodd
Request Status: Granted
Date of Permission/Refusal: 26 Apr 1832

No... Sydney..

 

[DaveHam9]

William Carroll
Age: 33
Birth Year: Abt 1799
Spouse: Maria Dodd
Request Status: Granted
Date of Permission/Refusal: 26 Apr 1832

Before the arrival of the two in 1833.

V1832956 16/1832 CARRAD OR CARROLL - WILLIAM DODD MARIA CA= CofE St Philip Sydney

 

[horse]

William Carrol
Spouse Name: Ann Crozier
Marriage Date: 1842
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Bathurst, Kelso (County of Bathurst), New South Wales
Registration Year: 1842
Volume Number: V

 

[DaveHam9]

We know from the 1860 marriage:

"to Jane, only daughter of the late William Carroll of Bathurst."

but finding the right one has proved difficult.

 

[horse]

William Carrol
Spouse Name: Ann Crozier
Marriage Date: 1842
Marriage Place: New South Wales
Registration Place: Bathurst, Kelso (County of Bathurst), New South Wales
Registration Year: 1842
Volume Number: V

This has to be a favourite, but nothing to back it up

 

[DaveHam9]

This has to be a favourite, but nothing to back it up

That's the RC one in post #2.

RC baptisms:

V18422438 162B/1842 CARROLL MARY J WILLIAM ANN
V18441139 62/1844 CARROLL JOHN WILLIAM ANN
V18472381 65/1847 CARROLL CATHERINE WILLIAM ANN

On the list to look up at the library.

 

[horse]

Yep, it keeps returning, the other is to a Catherine

 

[horse]

Interesting Jane's mother didn't get a mention

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, part of the problem. No death for Jane, no age at death or marriage, and don't know her mother's name.

And no tree.

 

[horse]

Yes, part of the problem. No death for Jane no age at death or marriage and don't know her mother's name.

Absolutely!

 

[DaveHam9]

And I'm moving on. :biggrin:

 

[horse]

And I'm moving on. :biggrin:

Ok, Dave... Another one for next year :biggrin:

 

[DaveHam9]

Yes, return to it next year.