JOHNSTON & SANDS families

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

David SANDS b. 1877 Sydney d. 1951 Redfern

married 1897 Redfern

Isabella McFARLANE b. abt 1877 where? d. 1952 Redfern

Death # 22205/1952 SANDS ISABELLA WILLIAM AGNES REDFERN


N.S.W Sands Directory 1917-1932
SANDS David Wellington st Mascot

1930 & 1936 N.S.W Electoral Roll – Cook – Mascot
SANDS David, Laguna, 59 Wellington street, Mascot, labourer
SANDS Isabella, Laguna, 59 Wellington street, home duties

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

Sent 1943 / 1949.

1913 N.S.W Electoral Roll - KAHIBAH-WOY WOY POLLING-PLACE
385 Sands David Glenrock labourer
386 Sands Isabella Glenrock domestic duties

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crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

EASTERN SUBURBS MEMORIAL PARK
Name Cremation Date Age Location
SANDS David 15-12-1951 74 Crematorium Chapel Gardens, Garden E2
SANDS Isabella 14-07-1952 75 Crematorium Chapel Gardens, Garden E2


Isabella Agnes R S SANDS b. 1898 Tamworth d. ?? 1922 Hurstville ?

married 1920 Redfern

George Victor MURPHY b. 1892 Gosford d. 1955 Gosford

They had 2 children so it's possible Bella died in 1922.

1930 & 1936 N.S.W Electoral Roll - Robertson - Gosford
MURPHY George Victor, Grandview, Woy Woy, launch-driver

May not be anything but this woman is on same page for both years:

MURPHY Isabel Agnes, Woy Woy, home-duties ?

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

Found this one??

1881 Scotland Census
Name: Isabella C McFarlane
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Agnes
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 622/1
Registration district: Maryhill
Civil parish: Maryhill
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 330 Saracen Street
ED: 16
Household schedule number: 5
Line: 5
Roll: cssct1881_200
William McFarlane 41 Irondresser (Unemployed)Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Agnes McFarlane 38 Glasgow, Lanarkshire
John McFarlane 17
William McFarlane 15
James Mc G McFarlane 13
Allen McFarlane 9
Agnes McFarlane 7
Watt McFarlane 5
Isabella C McFarlane 3
Robert G McFarlane 10 Mo

New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922
Name: Isabella C Mcfarlane
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Age: 7
Port of Departure: Plymouth
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 30 Oct 1885

+parents & siblings

William Mcfarlane abt 1841 Sydney, New South Wales 30 Oct 1885
Agnes Mcfarlane abt 1845 Sydney, New South Wales 30 Oct 1885
William Mcfarlane abt 1866 Sydney, New South Wales 30 Oct 1885
Albert Mcfarlane abt 1872 Sydney, New South Wales 30 Oct 1885
Agnes Mcfarlane abt 1873 Sydney, New South Wales 30 Oct 1885
Watt Mcfarlane abt 1876 Sydney, New South Wales 30 Oct 1885
Isabella C Mcfarlane abt 1878 Sydney, New South Wales 30 Oct 1885
Robert Mcfarlane abt 1881 Sydney, New South Wales 30 Oct 1885

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crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much. That fits. I had born Lanark in my database then I changed it to 'where ?' because I had nothing to support my claim. Isabella died in Prince Henry Hospital.
Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

I can't find the marriage in NLA nor can I find anything in any record in Australia that confirms her middle initial is C. Another SANDS descendant must have told me Isabella was born in Lanark. I'll see if I can find some other way. This one is a puzzle:

Death # 5938/1922 SANDS ISABEL DAVID ISABELLA HURSTVILLE

I can see no other David SANDS + Isabella marriages in NSW.

Yes, I know, the marriage to MURPHY was in 1920.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

So far I can't find anything in NLA. I'm wondering if William McFARLANE's spouse was Agnes RENNIE.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

I have it now.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Saturday 29 August 1931 p.11
FUNERALS
MCFARLANE -The Relatives and Friends of Mr. WATT MCFARLANE, Mr. and Mrs. D. SANDS and Mr. and Mrs. G. MURPHY are invited to attend the Funeral of their beloved SISTER-IN-LAW and AUNT to leave her late residence, Glasgow, 62 William street Mascot, THIS DAY at 3 o clock.

I can't see a marriage of William to Agnes RENNIE. Possibly Isabella's middle initial is R=Rennie but for some other reason, or perhaps is not Rennie. I have no idea what the S is for.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

Thank god for that, almost had a merlot moment.>

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

:2fun:

Thanks. Well now. What is going on? George and Isabella had 2 children, Bruce and Heather Jean. So who is Matilda Teresa?

9479/1944 MURPHY PERCY JOSEPH MCGINESS MATILDA THERESE GOSFORD

Confuses me more.

Death # 23604/1958 MURPHY PERCY JOSEPH ANDREW GOSFORD

George's parents are Andrew and Mary so possibly Percy is a brother.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

I think the MURPHY's are sorted out.

Ellenor Jane SANDS b. 1879 Sydney d. 1915 Newtown

married 1902 Glebe

William John JOHNSTON b. 1876 Sydney d. 1940 Newtown

Have 1930 & 1936 E/R.

Please see what you can find. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

The Sydney Morning Herald... Saturday 26 June 1920
MARRIAGES.
MURPHY-SANDS.-May 22. at St. Matthew's Church,
Botany, by the Rev. W. J. Price,George Murphy, son of Mr. Andrew Murphy. Grandview, Woy Woy, to Isabel, only daughter of Mr. and Mrs. D. Sands,
Mascot.

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crankypants

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

The Sydney Morning Herald... Saturday 8 January 1916
JOHNSTON.-In loving remembrance of our dear sister Ellenor Jane, who departed this life January 9, 1915. Inserted by her sister and brother, Mr. J. Morgan, also Mr. and Mrs. D. Sands.

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crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thanks. I'm not reading anything into the fact Isabella didn't have 'Grandview' in the E/R listing. But I still can't find her death and I'm still puzzled by that 1922 death for an Isabella SANDS.

I have all the funeral notices for Ellenor Jane.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

The Sydney Morning Herald... Saturday 16 May 1914, page 20
MACFARLANE.-In loving remembrance of our dear father, William, who departed this life May 17, 1908, aged 68 years. Inserted by his son and daughter, Mr. and Mrs. A. MacFarlane also Mr. and Mrs. D. Sands.

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crankypants

 

[crankypants]

Hello crankypants,

Thanks. I'm not reading anything into the fact Isabella didn't have 'Grandview' in the E/R listing. But I still can't find her death and I'm still puzzled by that 1922 death for an Isabella SANDS.

I have all the funeral notices for Ellenor Jane.

Regards,

Dave

Hi Dave

Sure is strange, I couldn't see a divorce for Isabella either.

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thanks.

The Sydney Morning Herald - Thursday 14 November 1940 p.6
DEATHS
JOHNSTON.-November 13, 1940, at Prince Alfred Hospital, William John, loving father of David, William, and Helen, aged 64 years.


Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Any sign of William John JOHNSTON in 1913 or in Sands Dir?

I'm having problems with his father Captain John because there are references in NLA to two Captain John JOHNSTONs. That will be the next post here.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

1913 N.S.W Electoral Roll - CAMPERDOWN—CAMPERDOWN POLLING-PLACE
2832 Johnston Ellinor Jane 30 Junction-street domestic duties
2837 Johnston William John 30 Junction-street labourer

The Sydney Morning Herald... Monday 11 January 1915, page 5. Family Notices 3549 words
(11 articles) Can’t ask for much more here.

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much. Yes, lots of funeral notices listing all the relatives. Nice.

Regards,

Dave