Joseph PEACOCK & Elizabeth

[DaveHam9]

You can't trust everything on FS:

name: Joseph Peacock
event: Marriage
event date: 14 Sep 1859
event place: Abbots Leigh (Holy Trinity), Somersetshire, England
gender: Male
age:
christening date:
marriage date:
marital status: Single
burial date:
father: Daniel Peacock
mother:
spouse: Elizabeth Lear
spouse's marital status: Single
spouse's father: Aaron Lear
spouse's mother:
film number: 4225628
digital folder number: 4225628
image number: 00202


Marriages Sep 1859
Peacock Joseph Bristol 6a 82
Lear Elizabeth Bristol 6a 82

1859 Marriage solemnized at The Parish Church in the Parish of St. Paul in the County of Bristol
No. 397 - September 14 -
Joseph Peacock - full - Bachelor - Carpenter - St. Paul's - Daniel Peacock - Hawker
Elizabeth Lear - full - Spinster - - St. George's Co of Gloucester - Aaron Lear - ..? ...?
Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church, by License, by me Hugh Allan ?
Both signed
Witnesses: James Lear, Wm. White ?


Occupation is not Fish Hawker or Hawker or Carrier. It looks like two words but the image must be poor because the copy is poor.

Baptism of children:
1 child - Fish Hawker
3 children at one time - Carrier

I find that curious also - County of Bristol in 1859 ?

Bristol RD - Parish of St. Paul - Gloucestershire 1837 - 1896

Clifton RD - Parish of St. George - Gloucestershire 1837 - 1877

 

[horse]

Hi Dave

I think this branch were the Bristol Peacock's (some of them) as opposed to Bitton (and areas), but had family links; on a par with the Wilmott's for information gathering!!

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Geoff,

Both Joseph and Elizabeth were born in Bitton.

Joseph has not been found in 1841 but they are together in Swansea in 1851 although they didn't marry until 1859 in Bristol. From 1861 onwards they are in Frome.

Looking at the census listings again I still have one puzzle apart from Joseph in 1841 and it's also 1841 for Elizabeth's younger brother Joseph.

It will take a bit to explain about Elizabeth and siblings.

Dave

 

[horse]

Hi Dave

Just a quickie... yeah, found them in Frome, I thought this was the one whose father was a fish merchant/monger in Bristol..

Geoff

 

[DaveHam9]

No, father Daniel is the fish monger in Hanham.

Starting with this census which has to be explained to understand: :2fun:

1841
HO107 Piece 361 Book/Folio 27 Page 14
Registration District: Keynsham
Sub District: Oldland
Civil Parish: Bitton
Address: Warmley Hill Bitton Oldland
HODGES, George M 25 1816
HODGES, Elizabeth F 25 1816
HODGES, George M 6 1835
HODGES, Elizabeth F 3 1838
LEAR, Elizabeth F 20 1821 Shoemaker
NIPKIN, - M 25 1816
LEAR, James M 20 1821 Agricultural labourer

George senior is LEWTON but he was born before his parents married so in this census he is using his mother's name HODGES.

His father is Aaron LEWTON but he was also born before his parents married so he is using the name LEAR

So Elizabeth and Joseph LEAR in the census are siblings of George senior but both born after parents married.

There is a younger sibling Joseph baptised 19th March 1826 at Hanham Abbots, probably during his first year.

So a Joseph LEAR or LEWTON born abt 1826 in 1841 other than this one:

1841
HO107 Piece 361 Book 16 Folio 56 Page 15
Civil Parish: Bitton
Registration District: Keynsham
Sub-RD: Bitton
John Lear age 15 occ coal -----
Joseph Lear age 15 occ coal-----
Mary Lear age 12 occ pin-----
All born in county.

Here he is in 1851 (married in 1847 St Mary's Bitton)

1851 Wales Census
Civil Parish: Swansea
Registration District: Swansea
County: Glamorganshire
Address: - Street
LEWTON, Joseph Head Married M 25 1826 Cheese Factor (Hawking Cheese) Kingswood Gloucestershire
LEWTON, Mary Wife Married F 1828 Kingswood Gloucestershire


Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

I doubt my Joseph worked at a coal mine.

The children fit being the first three of this family that is not in my tree (at this stage):

- HERE

 

[horse]

Where does this one fit in?

On the original page there are a number of Lear's some on their own with varying job's from farmers through to stone masons..

1841 England Census about Joseph Lear
Name: Joseph Lear
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Bitton
Hundred: Langley and Swinehead (Upper Division)
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Keynsham
Sub-registration district: Bitton
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 361
Book: 15
Folio: 25
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
James Lear 35 [stone mason]
Sarah Lear 35
Ann Lear 14
Joseph Lear 11
Robert Lear 8
James Lear 4
Ellen Lear

 

[DaveHam9]

Thanks, but no idea Geoff. A branch I've not come across so far.

Elizabeth, James and Joseph were all baptised on 19th March 1826 at Hanham Abbots. No age at baptism for any of them but later census and age at death rule out twins born 1821, so it looks like 1820, 1822, 1825.

Another indication of age:

Unassisted to Victoria
LUTON JOSEPH 30 - DEC 1857 MORNING STAR B 137 004
LUTON MARY 28 - DEC 1857 MORNING STAR B 137 004

Name: Joseph LEWTON
Date of Death: 24 Jun 1898
Place: No 15 Young street Redfern, NSW
Occupation: Formerly Railway Inspector, Late NSW Government Pensioner
***: Male
Age: 72
Place of Birth: Bristol, England
Time in Aust Colonies: 40 years in NSW
Father: Aaron LEWTON
Occupation: Dealer
Mother: Ann HODGES

 

[DaveHam9]

I know of only the 4 children and there are no coal miners in my lot of LEWTON/LEARs - coach builder, railway labourers or market gardeners or hawkers or carriers...

 

[horse]

He's just not showing in baptisms though...

 

[horse]

I know of only the 4 children and there are no coal miners in my lot of LEWTON/LEARs - railway labourers or market gardeners or hawkers or carriers...

Railway labourers.. Oh! I've seen that somewhere..

 

[DaveHam9]

Joseph, James and Elizabeth Lear - 19th March 1826 at Hanham Abbots
Children of Aaron & Ann of Grimsbury
Fathers Occupation - Carrier.
Source: Bristol and Avon FHS Bristol Dioceses Baptismal Register CD 1813-1837

 

[horse]

Yeah, I think we had this last time, they are on that CD, but nothing conclusive elsewhere.. A question of piecing the bits together as they come up.

 

[DaveHam9]

It's looking as though Joseph can't be found in 1841 as LUTON/ LEWTON/LEAR. He is not with his siblings and both parents died before 1841.

 

[horse]

Interesting there is a Joseph [coal miner] and Charlotte at 65 and Charles Wilmott next door at 65 a grocer.

1861 England Census about Joseph Lear
Name: Joseph Lear
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Charlot Lear
Gender: Male
Where born: Bitton, Gloucestershire, England

 

[horse]

It's difficult to know whether these are estimated births or baptisms!

 

[horse]

It's looking as though Joseph can't be found in 1841 as LUTON/ LEWTON/LEAR. He is not with his siblings and both parents died before 1841.

Right or wrong this just doesn't go away!

1841
HO107 Piece 361 Book 16 Folio 56 Page 15
Civil Parish: Bitton
Registration District: Keynsham
Sub-RD: Bitton
John Lear age 15 occ coal -----
Joseph Lear age 15 occ coal-----
Mary Lear age 12 occ pin-----
All born in county.

 

[DaveHam9]

Spouse is Mary PEACOCK - 2 PEACOCKS and 2 LEWTON/LEARs

George HODGES/LEWTON/LEAR married Elizabeth PEACOCK.


Joseph and Mary left England in 1857.

Name: Mary LEWTON
Date of Death: 11 Jan 1885
Place: Sloane street Goulburn, NSW
Occupation:
***: Female
Age: 58
Place of Birth: England
Time in Aust Colonies: 29 years

Father: Daniel PEACOCK
Occupation: Fishmonger
Mother: Anne WILMOT

Place of Marriage: England
Age at Marriage: 21
Name of Spouse: Joseph LEWTON
Children of Marriage: 1 female deceased

Informant: J LEWTON, Husband, Goulburn
Cause of Death: Haemorrhage of ...?
Length of Ilness: 20 months
Medical Attendant: S M MORTON
Date Last Seen: 11 Jan 1885

Date of Burial: 12 Jan 1885
Place of Burial: Goulburn
Minister & Religion: Rev. R SELLORS, Wesleyan
Undertaker: R CRAIG
Witnesses: W REYNOLDS, W LANSDOWN

Registered: 17 Feb 1885, Goulburn
Reg. No: 1885/6840

 

[DaveHam9]

Right or wrong this just doesn't go away!

1841
HO107 Piece 361 Book 16 Folio 56 Page 15
Civil Parish: Bitton
Registration District: Keynsham
Sub-RD: Bitton
John Lear age 15 occ coal -----
Joseph Lear age 15 occ coal-----
Mary Lear age 12 occ pin-----
All born in county.

They are the family in the tree in post #6 with father William a coal miner.

 

[DaveHam9]

Joseph is the other one not yet found in 1841:

name: Joseph Peacock
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 13 Jul 1827
baptism/christening place: Oldland, Gloucester, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Daniel Peacock
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Ann
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C02859-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1597108
reference number: item 5 p 212


Births Sep 1850
Peacock Isaac Lear Swansea 26 581

Isaac not found in any census so far.

1851
HO107 Piece 2466 Folio 370 Page 55
Civil Parish: Swansea
Address:
Joseph Peacock head age 31
Elizabeth wife age 32
James Peacock male age 8
Joseph Peacock male age 5
Jane Peacock age 1
No places of birth given nor occupation for Joseph.