Joseph PEACOCK

[DaveHam9]

Hello,


Marriages Dec 1842
Green John Keynsham 11 127
Leacy Mary Keynsham 11 127
PEACOCK Joseph Keynsham 11 127
PRESTON Eliza Keynsham 11 127
PRESTON Elizabeth Keynsham 11 127


I'd like a look up for Joseph in 1851 please.

Regards,

Dave

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

I didnt come across a Joseph Peacock with wife eliza/beth. There is a Jospeh Peacock with wife Mary in Cheptow.

CP Chepstow
Nelson Street

Joseph Peacock head age 21 occ engine cleaner? born Bitton Glos
Mary wife age 19 born Marylebone Middx
Martha dau age 4mths born St Phillips Glos

Class H0107
Piece 2443
Folio 349
Page 65

 

[davelambert271]

Hi Dave
there is this one also, but again wife is Mary

PEACOCK, Joseph Head Married M 30 1821 Coalminer Siston Gloucestershire
PEACOCK, Mary Wife Married F 30 1821 Siston Gloucestershire
PEACOCK, Elizabeth Daughter F 4 1847 Siston Gloucestershire
PEACOCK, John Son M 1 1850 Siston Gloucestershire
PEACOCK, Joseph Son M 8 1843 Siston Gloucestershire

RG number:HO107 Piece:1944 Folio:152 Page:13

Registration District: Keynsham
Sub District: Bitton
Enumeration District: 5A
Civil Parish: Siston
Address: Warmley Siston Common, Siston Somersetshire

dave

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

There is a Joseph Peacock born abt 1821 Bitton and wife Elizabeth , plus children in 1861. They are living in Frome Somerset.

1861 - CP Frome
Hilly Vale

Joseph Peacock head age 40 occ railway contractor born Bitton
Elizabeth wife age 41 born Bitton
James son age 18 occ engine fiiters apprentice born Bitton
Joseph son age 15 born Swansea
Elizabeth Anne dau age 7 born Frome Somerset
Ann dau age 6 born Frome
Mary Jane dau age 3 bron Frome

Class RG9
Piece 1654
Folio 36
Page 17

Looks like the same family.

1851 - CP Swansea

Joseph Peacock head age 31 occ
Elizabeth wife age 32
James Peacock male age 8
Joseph Peacock male age 5
Jane Peacock age 1

Class H0107
Piece 2466
Folio 370
Page 55

No places of birth given nor occupation for Joseph.

 

[juliejtp]

Hi Dave,

I see you already have this info on your Lear family posting.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Dave,

Thanks for looking.

I'm not sure if I have one Joseph who married twice or one who married late in life or two different ones both born about the same time in Bitton.

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Julie,

Thank you very much. Yes, I was trying to trace back the same Joseph.

Elizabeth LEAR

married 14 Sep 1859 Abbots Leigh (Holy Trinity), Somerset

Joseph PEACOCK

You have found the same railway worker in 1851 with spouse Elizabeth. The question now becomes: Is it the same Joseph in the above marriage and he married twice and both to an Elizabeth? If so, when was his first marriage?

If it's not the same Joseph then the two questions become: Where is the marriage for my Joseph the railway worker? Can we find a second Joseph (the one in the above marriage) with spouse Elizabeth in 1861?

Does that make sense?

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

I have a Joseph born about 1821 Bitton. I don't know if he is older or younger than brother Isaac. Either way, Joseph is not with the family in 1841:

1841
HO107/piece 361 bk 16 f 50 p 3
Civil parish Bitton
RD Keynsham
Sub RD Bitton
ED 9a
Daniel Peacock age 50 occ fish monger
Ann Peacock age 49
Isaac Peacock age 20 occ labourer
Mary Peacock age 14
Aaron Peacock age 12
Daniel Peacock age 10
Thomas Peacock age 8
William Peacock age 5
All born in county

So, I have Isaac and Aaron (also a railway worker) both in Glamorgan in 1851. We have a Joseph born about 1821 Bitton also in Glamorgan in 1851. It's too much of a coincidence. I think the railway worker is my Joseph.

Can Joseph be found single or married in 1841?

Regards,

Dave

 

[p.risboy]

Hi Dave,

Don't know if this is your fella.

1841 census.

Joseph Peacock
Age-15
abt 1826

C.p.-Siston
Hundred-Puckle Church
Gloucestershire

Address - Warmley or Harmley.

Reg dist-Keynsham
Sub reg-Bitton

John Peacock 20
Joseph Peacock 15
Mary Peacock 25

All b.i.c.


Steve.

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Steve,

Thanks for looking.

I'm not sure. Age, Civil parish, John & Mary all give me doubts it may be this one:

name: Joseph Peacock
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 23 Jul 1820
baptism/christening place: Siston, Gloucester, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Joseph Peacock
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Elizabeth
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C05054-8
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1597110
reference number:

I wish I knew how old the following one was when he was baptised:

name: Joseph Peacock
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 13 Jul 1827
baptism/christening place: Oldland, Gloucester, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Daniel Peacock
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Ann
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C02859-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1597108
reference number: item 5 p 212

Too many PEACOCKs. :2fun:

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Steve,

This looks like the Siston one:

1881
Source Information:
Dwelling Warmley
Census Place Siston, Gloucester, England
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2445 / 149
Page Number 13
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Joseph PEACOCK Head M Male 61 Bitton, Gloucester, England Labourer (Unemployed
Mary PEACOCK Wife M Female 60 Bitton, Gloucester, England Labourer Wife
James PEACOCK Son U Male 23 Siston, Gloucester, England Boot Rivetter

I would say not mine. This one looks like mine even though it says Bristol (or I'm totally off track):

1881
RG11 Piece / Folio 2401 / 76 Page Number 8
Family History Library Film 1341578
Census Place Frome, Somerset, England
Dwelling Broadway 53
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Joseph PEACOCK Head M Male 60 Bristol Contractor
Elizabeth PEACOCK Wife M Female 61 Bristol
William J. MASON Grand Son Male 6 Frome, Somerset, England

Marriages Dec 1873
Mason Henry Bath 5c 1143
PEACOCK Elizabeth Ann Bath 5c 1143


Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

1891
Civil parish: Frome
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Frome
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Frome
Sub-registration district: Frome
Address: 54, Broadway, Frome

PEACOCK, Joseph Head Married M 70 1821 Living On His Own Means Kingswood Gloucestershire
PEACOCK, Elizabeth Wife Married F 71 1820 Kingswood Gloucestershire
MASON, William Jos Grandson Single M 16 1875 Brewers Clerk Frome Somersetshire


1871
Civil parish: Frome
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Frome
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Frome
Sub-registration district: Frome
Address: Top Of Broadway, Frome

PEACOCK, Joseph Head M 50 1821 Railway Contractor Bristol Gloucestershire
PEACOCK, Elizabeth Wife F 51 1820 Bristol Gloucestershire
PEACOCK, James Son M 28 1843 Engine Fitter Bristol Gloucestershire
PEACOCK, Elizabeth A Daughter F 17 1854 Swansea Glamorgan

cheers
cp

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

Thanks. Keep going please.

Deaths Mar 1905
Peacock Joseph 83 Frome 5c 339

Deaths Dec 1913
Peacock Elizabeth 95 Frome 5c 482

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

1901
Civil parish: Frome
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Frome
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Frome
Sub-registration district: Frome
Address: 54, Broadway, Frome

PEACOCK, Joseph Head Married M 80 1821 Living On Own Means Bitton Gloucestershire
PEACOCK, Elizabeth Wife Married F 81 1820 Bitton Gloucestershire


Will send 1911.

cheers
cp

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

Thanks.

Please see if you can find a probate record. Thanks.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941
Name: Joseph Peacock
Probate Date: 10 Mar 1905
Death Date: 13 Feb 1905
Death Place: Somerset, England
Registry: Wells

PEACOCK Joseph of 8 Lansdowne-place Frome Somersetshire retired contractor died 13 February 1905 Probate Wells 10 March to Elizabeth Peacock widow Effects £2615 6s. 7d.


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941
Name: Elizabeth Peacock
Probate Date: 19 Nov 1913
Death Date: 30 Oct 1913
Death Place: Somerset, England
Registry: Wells

PEACOCK Elizabeth of 361 Oakfield-road Frome Somersetshire widow died 30 October 1913 Probate Wells 19 November to James Lear Peacock retired licensed victualler and Joseph Lear Peacock iron moulder and Edwin John Jelly accountant. Effects £821 11s. 4d.

cheers
cp

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

Thank you very much.

PEACOCK Elizabeth of 361 Oakfield-road Frome Somersetshire widow died 30 October 1913 Probate Wells 19 November to James Lear Peacock retired licensed victualler and Joseph Lear Peacock iron moulder and Edwin John Jelly accountant. Effects £821 11s. 4d.

Now are they the children? If so can we prove both changed occupations?

James as a fitter and Joseph a saddler. ???

1861
Civil parish: Frome
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Frome
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Frome
Sub-registration district: Frome
Address: Pilly Vale, Frome
PEACOCK, Joseph Head Married M 40 1821 Railway Contractor Bitton Gloucestershire
PEACOCK, Elizabeth Wife Married F 41 1820 Railway Contractors Wife Bitton Gloucestershire
PEACOCK, James Son Unmarried M 18 1843 Engineer Fitter Apprentice Gloucestershire
PEACOCK, Joseph Son Unmarried M 15 1846 Saddler Apprentice Swansea Wales
PEACOCK, Elizabeth Ame Daughter U F 7 1854 Frome Somerset
PEACOCK, Anne Daughter U F 6 1855 Frome Somerset
PEACOCK, Mary Jane Daughter U F 3 1858 Frome Somerset

If they are the sons the middle name came from their mother and that means the 1859 marriage must have been Joseph's 2nd and a late first one in life for Elizabeth LEAR. Then Joseph's first spouse was also Elizabeth - we now have them in 1851 in Swansea - so is it Elizabeth PRESTON and when did she die?

Births Sep 1857
Peacock Mary Jane Frome 5c 536
Births Dec 1857
Peacock Mary Jane Frome 5c 5[35]5

So she must have died 1857 (if Mary Jane was born 1857) to 1859 but I can't see a death yet. ???

Regards,

Dave

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

Deaths Mar 1920
Peacock James L 77 Frome 5c 517

Deaths Dec 1940
Peacock Joseph L 97 Frome 5c 1099

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941
Name: James Lear Peacock
Probate Date: 16 Mar 1920
Death Date: 19 Jan 1920
Death Place: Somerset, England
Registry: Wells

PEACOCK James Lear of 36 Oakfield-road Frome Somersetshire retired licensed victualler died 19 January 1920 Probate Wells 16 March to Joseph Lear Peacock retired moulder. Effects £319 15s. 4d.


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941
Name: Joseph Lear Peacock
Probate Date: 13 Jan 1941
Death Date: 7 Nov 1940
Death Place: Somerset, England
Registry: Bristol

PEACOCK Joseph Lear of 36 Oakfield-road Frome Somersetshire died 7 November 1940 Probate Bristol 13 January to Joseph Henry Peacock stockbroker. Effects £1756 12s. 10d.

cheers
cp

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello cp,

Thank you very much.

We have a problem or a dozen.

The 1859 marriage has them BOTH as being single. So?

There are children born before 1859 and they are not listed as nephew or step-son or ....

Ok. Can we find another Joseph and Elizabeth (probably younger to fit the year of marriage - probably 1 child 2 years old or at most 2 young children) in 1861 but not this one:

1861
Civil parish: Frome
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Frome
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Frome
Sub-registration district: Frome
Address: Pilly Vale, Frome
PEACOCK, Joseph Head Married M 40 1821 Railway Contractor Bitton Gloucestershire
PEACOCK, Elizabeth Wife Married F 41 1820 Railway Contractors Wife Bitton Gloucestershire

Any thoughts? (I can always post NOBLE) >

Regards,

Dave