Joseph REVETT/ RIVETT

[DaveHam9]

Hello,

I can only find two children in IGI. Looking at over 100 REVETT/RIVETTs in Norfolk in 1600 & 1700s there was no sign of a Joseph so we can be reasonably sure we have the right couple even though the records don't actually say Louisa EAGLE.

I'd like a look up please for this REVETT/RIVETT family in 1841. Thanks.

Joseph
spouse Louisa (nee EAGLE)
??
Catharine b. ?
Mary b. 1827

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

1841 U.K Census
Civil parish: St Matthew
Hundred: Ipswich
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Ipswich
Sub-registration district: St Matthew
Address: Berner's Street

RIVETT, Louisa F 40 1801
RIVETT, Mary F 15 1826
RIVETT, Emma F 12 1829 Suffolk
RIVETT, Susanna F 9 1832 Suffolk
RIVETT, Harriet F 6 1835 Suffolk
RIVETT, Catherine F 4 1837 Suffolk

cheers
crankypants

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

Joseph must be somewhere in 1841.

1851 U.K Census
Civil parish: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub-registration district: Yarmouth Northern
Address: Edward Denes Place

REVETT, Joseph Head Married M 57 1794 Coach Maker Master Kelvedon Essex
REVETT, Emma Daughter Unmarried F 27 1824 Colchester Essex
REVETT, Catherine Daughter Unmarried F 14 1837 Scholar Colchester Essex
RUSSELL, Sarah Servant F 14 1837 House Servant Kersey Suffolk

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thanks. Curious how only two of the children are in IGI. The two extracted baptisms in IGI only mention the mother as Louisa and not her MS which we think is EAGLE, hence the origin of the middle names in descendants.

I think they were born near Colchester, Essex and not in Suffolk.

Regards,

Dave

 

[crankypants]

Hi Dave

The Bury and Norwich Post, and Suffolk Herald (Bury Saint Edmunds, England), Wednesday, September 10, 1851
DEATH
On the 3rd inst., at Yarmouth, aged 22, Emma, daughter of Mr. Joseph Revett.

cheers
crankypants

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello crankypants,

Thank you very much.

Regards,

Dave

 

[rgu994]

Morning Dave
Ron has advised:

1881 census has Revett but spelt RevItt and has him residing with his son William Eagle and Jane Elizabeth Revett and has suggested that:

Joseph's age of 93 suggesting he was born c1787 at Kelvedon, Essex, which is quite close to William's birth place of Tolleshunt D'Arcy. I have found a baptism 30 October 1791 at Kelvedon on Family Search (IGI) Joseph son of Joseph and Hannah.
There was a Joseph Revett buried Wilby, Suffolk 5 December 1882, aged 93 which could be the father of William Eagle.
Wilby is 3 parishes NE of Framlingham.

What do you think?

Cheers
Barb

 

[DaveHam9]

Morning Barb,

The IGI baptism is an extracted one so should be reliable. It all does seem to fit but it needs sources. Has anyone seen a copy of this death registration? You say Wilby so where did that come from? It is in the Hoxne RD.

Deaths Dec 1882
REVETT Joseph 93 Hoxne 4a 404

Regards,

Dave

 

[rgu994]

Dave - found this information on the Families in British Indian Society - some aspects are free but it may help your India connections.

So may be Mr Issac Revett and his 5 children are just cousins/aunts uncles to WE and J Revett

Entry from Arrivals from Bombay Calendar 1841
Arrival Arrival
Month & Day Apr 15
Year 1841
Name of Ship Buckinghamshire
Type of Ship Ship
Captain William Moore
Title or Rank Mr.
First Name Issac
Passenger Surname Revett
Regiment or Occupation Retired invalid
Passenger Origin London
Passenger Origin date Dec 6
Destination Bombay
Vessel Origin London
Vessel Origin date Dec 6
Source Bombay Calendar
Edition 1842

Entry from Arrivals from Bombay Calendar 1841
Arrival Arrival
Month & Day Apr 15
Year 1841
Name of Ship Buckinghamshire
Type of Ship Ship
Captain William Moore
Title or Rank Mrs.
Passenger Surname Revett
Children & 5 children
Passenger Origin London
Passenger Origin date Dec 6
Destination Bombay
Vessel Origin London
Vessel Origin date Dec 6
Source Bombay Calendar
Edition 1842

Entry from Arrivals from The Bengal Directory 1853
Arrival Arrival
Month Jan
Year 1853
Name of Ship Sutlej
Type of Ship Ship
Captain W.F. Peppercorn
Title or Rank Mr. [William Eagle
Passenger Surname Revett
Regiment or Occupation Pilot Service
Passenger Origin Portsmouth
Passenger Destination Calcutta
Vessel Origin Portsmouth
Vessel Destination Calcutta
Source Bengal Directory
Edition 1854


Entry from Arrivals from The New Calcutta Directory 1855
Arrival Arrival
Month & Day Jan-15
Year 1855
Name of Ship Bentinck
Type of Ship Steamer
Captain H. Bourchier
Title or Rank Mr.
First Name J.
Passenger Surname Revett
Passenger Origin Alexandria
Passenger Destination Calcutta
Vessel Origin London
Vessel Origin date Dec-09
Vessel Destination Calcutta
Port 1 Marseilles
Port 1 date Dec-11
Port 2 Suez
Port 2 Date Dec-22
Port 3 Aden
Port 3 date Dec-29
Port 4 Galle
Port 4 date Jan-08
Port 5 Madras
Port 5 date Jan-11
Source New Calcutta Directory
Edition 1856

Entry from Arrivals from The New Calcutta Directory 1855
Arrival Arrival
Month & Day Nov-18
Year 1855
Name of Ship Bentinck
Type of Ship P&O Co. Steamer
Captain H. Bourchier
Title or Rank Mr.
Passenger Surname Revett
Passenger Origin Suez
Origin date Oct-24
Passenger Destination Calcutta
Vessel Origin Suez
Vessel Origin date Oct-24
Vessel Destination Calcutta
Port 1 Aden
Port 1 date Oct-30
Port 2 Galle
Port 2 Date Nov-11
Port 3 Madras
Port 3 date Nov-15
Source New Calcutta Directory
Edition 1856

Entry from DEPARTURES from The Bengal and Agra Directory 1850 - 1851
Departure Departure
Month Feb
Year 1851
Name of Ship Hindostan
Type of Ship Steamer
Captain Henry Harris
Title or Rank Mr.
Passenger Surname Revett
Passenger Origin Calcutta
Passenger Destination Southampton
Vessel Origin Calcutta
Vessel Destination Madras
Source Bengal & Agra
Edition 1852

Entry from DEPARTURES from The Bengal Directory 1854
Departure Departure
Month & Day Aug 20
Year 1854
Name of Ship Bentinck
Type of Ship Steamer
Captain H. Bourchier
Title or Rank Mr.
First Name J.
Passenger Surname Revett
Passenger Origin Calcutta
Passenger Destination Bombay
Vessel Origin Calcutta
Vessel Destination Suez
Source Bengal Directory
Edition 1855

 

[DaveHam9]

Hello Barb,

I'm not sure how Isaac fits in. You have had more luck with that site than I have. The is very little in the free database for the families I'm interested in.

Regards,

Dave

 

[rgu994]

Hi
I'd like a look up please:

Charlotte b.1782 d.1870 & Joseph REVETT (husband and wife)
both buried at Suffolk England.

I should like to know if any children are listed in the1841 census

Thank you Barb

 

[crankypants]

Hi Barb

1841 U.K Census
Name: Charlette Revett
Age: 59
Estimated birth year: abt 1782
Gender: Female
Where born: Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Aldeburgh
Hundred: Plomesgate
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Plomesgate
Sub-registration district: Aldeburgh

Joseph Revett 65
Charlette Revett 59
Elizabeth Revett 23
Eliza Revett 21
Margaret Revett 16

cheers
crankypants

 

[rgu994]

Thank you CP

I'm sure this is the correct Joseph Revett with the dates; he married Charlotte on 25 March 1806 but his grave info states 8 children.

Is 1841 the early census available for the UK?

Interesting. Thank U for taking the time to look up.

Cheers Barb

 

[DaveHam9]

Morning Barb,

Yes, 1841 is the earliest general census remaining. There are a few earlier ones for selected parishes in England that have survived. However, I don't have a list of those.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Census.html

I'm sure another member here can expand on that.

Regards,

Dave

 

[Mersea]

Hi,

I have Joseph Revett, 1791, Kelvedon in my brother-in-law's family tree. He was the son of Joseph Revett and Hannah Wood. The family were publicans, butchers and farmers who lived in and ran the Star and Fleece public house in Kelvedon, Essex for some time. Joseph's daughter, Catherine (1838) married Thomas Attkins, son of Francis Fleet Attkins and Joseph is living in 113 Murray St, Hoxton, Hackney, London in the 1871 census with a widowed Catherine and her 10 year old son. Also living with them was a child, Charles P Collings aged 15, born in Calcutta, India. I don't know whose son he is (yet!)

As well as the extended Revett family in Kelvedon, there was another family of Revetts in Tolleshunt D'Arcy which is quite close by. I have tried, and so far failed, to link these two families except that I have the wills of Thomas Revett of Tolleshunt D'Arcy, signed 1780 and Joseph Revett of Kelvedon died 1778 both witnessed by the same person, Samuel Harvey.

There is also a link (I think) with Suffolk Revetts and the Suffolk Record Office hold the pedigree of the Revetts who were the Lords of the Manor at Brandeston.

Chris

 

[rgu994]

Chris

Thank you so much for that information particularly confirming that Joesph's parents are Joseph and Hannah nee wood and not Richard & Hannah Revett or Charlotte & Joseph Revett as per the information on www.gravestonephotos.com

Like you, I have been really confused with the Suffolk Revetts as there have been a lot of similarities.

I really appreciate your input and will keep in touch if I find more information.

Regards Barbara

 

[rgu994]

Chris -

I think I have found some more news on your Charles P Collings; grandson of head of household in 1871 census.

One of Joseph and Hannah's Revett children (I think they had six children), Joseph, married Louisa nee Eagle. They had 7 children and two C. Revett daughters; Catherine b c.1837 who married your Attkins and a CathArine Christened 25 Dec. 1840, Suffolk England.

The above information about CathArine was found in the IGI.

Does your brother's family tree have Joseph and Hannah's other children listed?

Cheers Barb

 

[Mersea]

Hi Barb,
Interesting thought! I don't think Joseph and Louisa had two Catherines, I think they just baptised her a bit later than usual! However, it is possible that Charles P Collings is Catherine's son but he was born in Calcutta. Which begs the question; what was Catherine doing in Calcutta? She would have been 18 when Charles P was born.

Now, I can't find the family; Joseph and co., in the 1861 census. Were they all in India? If so why? We have no record of Joseph being a soldier, although he was a bit of an unsettled person. In his father's will he is left only £20 compared with a lot more to his siblings (and he was the first born to survive who often inherited the lot!). The will states 'the residue (of the estate) to be divided among my children except my son Joseph Revett to whom I give and bequeath the sum of twenty pounds........having advanced to and on account of my said son Joseph divers sums of money in my lifetime.'

Joseph and Hannah's children were John 1788-1790, Joseph about 1791 but they lost a couple of Josephs around then, Hannah Maria 1793, Benjamin 1795,Mary 1796, Fanny 1798, Townshend 1800-1871, Elizabeth 1801, Martha 1804-1807, Henry Vince 1806-1866,and Charles 1808-1888. They were an affluent family playing a role in the society of Kelvedon at the time. They ran the Star and Fleece Inn, they stood surety for other innkeepers in the neighbourhood, they were farmers and butchers, one was assistant overseer of the parish and they sent at least one of their sons to the local private boys school.

Chris

 

[rgu994]

Morning Chris

I do love a mystery. Yes the Revetts and Eagles were involved in Calcutta India (search EAGLE on Forum home Page here). William Rivett was a pilot (ferrying ships in and out of the harbour in India) - check out www.fibis.org - Families in British India Society - there are a lot of info on Rivetts and Eagles there just to add to the mystery.

Ron, who is following the Rivett/Ray/Eagle connection, responded to my two catherines in a similar vein to you: i.e.

I don't think there were both a CathErine and CathArine because Joseph and Louisa set a precedent in having Mary baptised in 1841 at the age of 13, as quoted on the baptism record. Also CathErine on 3 census I have so far all tie to a birth year of 1836/37. Coupled with the fact that I have found no other ...Erine or ...arine on any census I am going to settle for showing her as Cathe(a)rine. No sign yet of a Richard and Hannah or Charlotte and Joseph as per the grave headstones.

but.... it still leaves the mystery of the Attkins connection.

I'll keep you posted on what I find

Cheers Barb

 

[Mersea]

Hello Barb,

I think I've solved the mystery of Charles P Collings shown with his grandparents in the 1871 census. In 1855 in Bombay, Harriet Revett married a J Scott Collins. Since Charles P was born around then, I think we can safely assume that Harriet, not Catherine, was the mother.

I haven't looked at the fibis website before, it's great, thanks for the link.

Chris